| Pages in topic: < [1 2] | The first sentence of "El Quijote" Thread poster: Ana Boadla
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José Luis Villanueva-Senchuk (X) 
Argentina
Local time: 02:09
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"Dins un lloquét de la Mancha (y sas derreras que tench s'anomena), hi vivia no fa molt de temps un hidalgo d'aquells que solien tenir sa llansa derrera sa porta, un escut de's temps d'ets avis, un cavall magrey un ca falaguer".
Translated by Ildefonso Rullá
Source: http://www.lluisvives.com/FichaObra.html?Ref=7986&portal=1
... See more "Dins un lloquét de la Mancha (y sas derreras que tench s'anomena), hi vivia no fa molt de temps un hidalgo d'aquells que solien tenir sa llansa derrera sa porta, un escut de's temps d'ets avis, un cavall magrey un ca falaguer".
Translated by Ildefonso Rullá
Source: http://www.lluisvives.com/FichaObra.html?Ref=7986&portal=1
[Edited at 2005-01-19 14:01] ▲ Collapse
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Local time: 06:09
English to Spanish
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| Book at bedtime- Radio 4 UK | Jan 20, 2005 |
Regarding El Quijote: In BBC radio 4 UK there is a serialisation of El Quijote in a new translation. The first episode was broadcasted 2 weeks ago, but it might be possible to find it in the BBC website.
Regarding the pronunciation of Mexico:
[quote]Juan Jacob wrote:
Nada que ver con la pregunta, pero me encanta volver al tema de México, y no Méjico. ¿Lo ven? Hace 400 años, el sonido "j" se escribía "x"... y los mexicanos conservamos esa grafía.
I agree 100%. It is always jarring to see "Mejico" instead of the correct "Mexico"
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Hi,
I didn't find the French version, but here is an Italian one available on the web:
DON CHISCIOTTE
di Miguel Cervantes di Saavedra
"Viveva, non ha molto, in una terra della Mancia, che non voglio ricordare come si chiami, un idalgo di quelli che tengono lance nella rastrelliera, targhe antiche, magro ronzino e cane da caccia."
Edoardo P... See more Hi,
I didn't find the French version, but here is an Italian one available on the web:
DON CHISCIOTTE
di Miguel Cervantes di Saavedra
"Viveva, non ha molto, in una terra della Mancia, che non voglio ricordare come si chiami, un idalgo di quelli che tengono lance nella rastrelliera, targhe antiche, magro ronzino e cane da caccia."
Edoardo Perino (Rome, 1888)
http://csdl.tamu.edu/cervantes/english/index.html
Marie-Céline ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Two versions in French | Jan 20, 2005 |
En un village de la Manche, du nom duquel je ne me veux souvenir, demeurait, il n’y a pas longtemps, un gentilhomme de ceux qui ont lance au râtelier, targe antique, roussin maigre et levrier bon coureur.
1614-1618 - César Oudin, François de Rosset, revue et corrigée en 1928 par Jean Cassou
Dans un village de la Manche, dont je ne veux pas me rappeler le nom, vivait il n’y a pas longtemps un de ces gentilshommes avec lance au râtelier, bouclier de cuir à l’a... See more En un village de la Manche, du nom duquel je ne me veux souvenir, demeurait, il n’y a pas longtemps, un gentilhomme de ceux qui ont lance au râtelier, targe antique, roussin maigre et levrier bon coureur.
1614-1618 - César Oudin, François de Rosset, revue et corrigée en 1928 par Jean Cassou
Dans un village de la Manche, dont je ne veux pas me rappeler le nom, vivait il n’y a pas longtemps un de ces gentilshommes avec lance au râtelier, bouclier de cuir à l’ancienne, levrette pour la chasse et rosse efflanquée.
1997 - Aline Schulman
http://www.editions-verdier.fr/banquet/n37/edition3.htm ▲ Collapse
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| Which "El Quijote"? | Jan 20, 2005 |
Before continuing this thread, I believe we should first establish which "El Quijote" we are refrring to? Are we talking about Cervantes' or Pierre Menard's?
Because according to José Luis Borges, Menard's "El Quijote" is "much richer, though some may say more ambiguous, yet ambiguity is enriching".
If Borges got it all wrong and Pierre Menard was not the author of "El Quijote", then for sure he must have been the MOST EXCELLENT TRANSLATOR ever! No doubt about that.... See more Before continuing this thread, I believe we should first establish which "El Quijote" we are refrring to? Are we talking about Cervantes' or Pierre Menard's?
Because according to José Luis Borges, Menard's "El Quijote" is "much richer, though some may say more ambiguous, yet ambiguity is enriching".
If Borges got it all wrong and Pierre Menard was not the author of "El Quijote", then for sure he must have been the MOST EXCELLENT TRANSLATOR ever! No doubt about that.
http://www.nachomarquez.com.ar/Borges/Ficciones/perrie_menard.htm ▲ Collapse
| | | | | The first sentence of "El Quijote" | Jan 20, 2005 |
Marcela Robaina Boyd wrote:
Because according to José Luis Borges, Menard's "El Quijote" is "much richer, though some may say more ambiguous, yet ambiguity is enriching".
If Borges got it all wrong and Pierre Menard was not the author of "El Quijote", then for sure he must have been the MOST EXCELLENT TRANSLATOR ever! No doubt about that.
And here's the English translation of the Borges essay:
http://www.english.swt.edu/cohen_p/avant-garde/Literature/Borges/Menard.html
| | | | | in Russian (hopefully utf-8 will work) | Feb 25, 2005 |
В некоем селе Ламанчском, которого название у меня нет охоты припоминать, не так давно жил-был один из тех идальго, чье имущество заключается в фамильном копье, древнем щите, тощей кляче и борзой собаке.
V nekoem sele Lamanchskom, kotorogo nazvanie u menja net oxoty pripominat', ne tak davno zhil-byl odin iz tex idal'go, ch'e imushchestvo zakljuchaetsja v famil'nom kop'e, drevnem shchite, toshchej kljache i borzoj sobake.
Marc
| | | | Ana Boadla
Local time: 07:09
English to Spanish
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TOPIC STARTER | Gracias a todos/Thanks to all of you | Feb 25, 2005 |
Muuuuuchassss gracias...Os los agradezco enormemente, me habéis suministrado un material valiosísimo que me hubiera costado mucho trabajo y esfuerzo recopilar yo solita.
Thank you very much for your help. Your information will be very valuable in my project, it would have taken me centuries to compile all those versions.
I am proud to belong to such a generous "association" as Proz.com
GreetingZ,
Ana Laura
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| En un lugar de la Mancha... more languages? | Apr 18, 2005 |
Has anybody got a translation of the phrase in Chinese,Basque, Arabic, Galician.
"En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme"
Thanks
Allan
Ana Laura wrote:
Muuuuuchassss gracias...Os los agradezco enormemente, me habéis suministrado un material valiosísimo que me hubiera costado mucho trabajo y esfuerzo recopilar yo solita.
Thank you very much for your help. Your information will be very valuable in my project, it would have taken me centuries to compile all those versions.
I am proud to belong to such a generous "association" as Proz.com
GreetingZ,
Ana Laura
| | | | Jarema
Ukraine
Local time: 08:09
Member (2003)
German to Russian
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"Nun lugar da Mancha, do que non quero lembra-lo nombre, non hai moito tempo que vivía un fidalgo dos de lanza en lanceira, adarga antiga, rocín fraco e galgo corredor."
Valentín Arias et alii, 1990
BTW, I once read that Cervantes really meant to say "no CREO acordarme" instead of "no QUIERO acordarme" ("I don't think I can remember instead" of "I don`t want to remember"). But I prefer the "wrong" version anyway... as a child, when I first started to read this wonder... See more "Nun lugar da Mancha, do que non quero lembra-lo nombre, non hai moito tempo que vivía un fidalgo dos de lanza en lanceira, adarga antiga, rocín fraco e galgo corredor."
Valentín Arias et alii, 1990
BTW, I once read that Cervantes really meant to say "no CREO acordarme" instead of "no QUIERO acordarme" ("I don't think I can remember instead" of "I don`t want to remember"). But I prefer the "wrong" version anyway... as a child, when I first started to read this wonderful book, I wondered why didn't Cervantes want to remember this place's name. ▲ Collapse
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