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se da con un mayor ardid

English translation: involves more complex schemes

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Spanish term or phrase:se da con un mayor ardid
English translation:involves more complex schemes
Entered by: Manuel Aburto

16:48 Apr 22, 2020
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Taxation & Customs / Taxation
Spanish term or phrase: se da con un mayor ardid
Buenos días,

El texto a continuación es parte de un documento de carácter fiscal:

Normalmente, en la práctica, la evasión fiscal **se da con un mayor ardid*** y un mayor tecnicismo, especialmente en cuentas anidadas, uso de sistemas de inventarios UEPS, PEPS y promedio ponderados, torceduras de NIIF, para evitar normas de capitalización de pasivos o normas de subcapitalización, entre otros.

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Usually, in practice, tax evasion occurs under a broader .... and a more complex technicality ....
Manuel Aburto
Nicaragua
Local time: 01:48
involves more complex schemes
Explanation:
Perhaps more natural?

FBI Mortgage Fraud Report: Scams Up in 2008 and More to ...blogs.findlaw.com › common_law › 2009/07 › fbi-mortg...
Jul 8, 2009 - "For profit" fraud, on the other hand, typically involves more complex schemes to gain illicit proceeds from real estate sales. With way more ...
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patinba
Argentina
Local time: 04:48
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3involves more complex schemes
patinba
5ruse
Ana Lesser
4tax evasion occurs when greater ruse works
Francois Boye
3 +1occurs through major scheming
AllegroTrans
4is becoming increasingly/more and more cunning
David Hollywood
Summary of reference entries provided
ardid
philgoddard

Discussion entries: 4





  

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24 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
tax evasion occurs when greater ruse works


Explanation:
my take

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 03:48
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 44

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: "greater ruse works" conveys nothing to me
43 mins
  -> However great or greater, ruse must work to deliver tax evasion
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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
ruse


Explanation:
"ardid" means a planned action with the intent to trick someone.
Ruse- a trick intended to deceive someone (Cambridge Dictionary).
Scheme might be another word you could use, but it has a more specific meaning, so in this case and for a more accurate translation, I might suggest using "ruse"


Example sentence(s):
  • It was just a ruse to distract her while his partner took the mone
  • Rather than revise the ruse of cooperation that he devised to protect his political domain, he blamed corrupted evidence.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/es/diccionario/ingles/ruse
    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/es/diccionario/ingles/scheme
Ana Lesser
Canada
Local time: 00:48
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
occurs through major scheming


Explanation:
I think we need to steer away from "ruse" here, the point seems to be that the use of complex financial structures is the most common means of tax fraud.

"Ruse" doesn't natural to me in this context.

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:48
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 73

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: I'm afraid this doesn't sound natural to me either.
53 mins
agree  Adrian MM.: with a major level of (UK tax cases: highly artificial) scheming https://eng.proz.com/personal-glossaries/entry/9726932-ardid...
3 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
involves more complex schemes


Explanation:
Perhaps more natural?

FBI Mortgage Fraud Report: Scams Up in 2008 and More to ...blogs.findlaw.com › common_law › 2009/07 › fbi-mortg...
Jul 8, 2009 - "For profit" fraud, on the other hand, typically involves more complex schemes to gain illicit proceeds from real estate sales. With way more ...

patinba
Argentina
Local time: 04:48
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 251

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard: This sounds English, and it's probably the correct meaning.
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Phil!
agree  Lester Tattersall: Seems to me to be the best so far and by far.
1 hr
  -> Many thanks, Lester!
agree  neilmac: Euphemism wins the day IMHO....
11 hrs
  -> Thank you, Neil!
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
is becoming increasingly/more and more cunning


Explanation:
I would say

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Note added at 12 hrs (2020-04-23 05:25:38 GMT)
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or: sophisticated

David Hollywood
Local time: 04:48
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 150

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  John Rynne: I don't see any suggestion that they are talking about a progression from less to more
2 hrs
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Reference comments


5 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: ardid

Reference information:
http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/Ardid

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 63

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  AllegroTrans
1 hr
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