Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
carrots and sticks
Slovak translation:
cukor a bič
Added to glossary by
Jan Fatara
May 31, 2006 17:48
17 yrs ago
English term
carrots and sticks
English to Slovak
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Ide o text pojednávajúci o opatreniach, ktorých úlohou je povzbudzovať nezamestnaných k aktívnemu hľadaniu práce.
"Effective activation policies involve a mix of carrots and sticks, which can be delivered through public or private employment services, to ensure that the unemployed are well supported in their job search efforts and, in their turn, they are looking actively for work."
Zatiaľ ma napadol akurát tak štandardný preklad :"Účinnú aktivačnú politiku predstavuje zmes odmien a trestov..."
Marí sa mi, že existuje slovné spojenie s rovnakým významom aj v slovenčinie, myslím že tam ide o "bič (trest)" + ešte niečo, čo predstavuje "odmenu".... Len si neviem spomenúť. Vopred vďaka za pomoc.
"Effective activation policies involve a mix of carrots and sticks, which can be delivered through public or private employment services, to ensure that the unemployed are well supported in their job search efforts and, in their turn, they are looking actively for work."
Zatiaľ ma napadol akurát tak štandardný preklad :"Účinnú aktivačnú politiku predstavuje zmes odmien a trestov..."
Marí sa mi, že existuje slovné spojenie s rovnakým významom aj v slovenčinie, myslím že tam ide o "bič (trest)" + ešte niečo, čo predstavuje "odmenu".... Len si neviem spomenúť. Vopred vďaka za pomoc.
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Matej Hasko
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cukor a bič
to tomu zodpovedá
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Comment: "Vďaka. Presne na toto som myslel, len mi to akosi vypadlo."
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The carrot-and-stick approach = two forms of motivation, one positive (incentive) and one negative (threat);
carrot = positive (incentive)
stick = negative (threat of punishment).
The saying comes from the use of both motivators to get a horse to pull a buggy (carriage, cart): A carrot was hung so the horse could see it just in front of him and would try to walk towards it (incentive). If the horse did not move towards the carrot, it was threatened with a stick (threat of punishment).
carrot = positive (incentive)
stick = negative (threat of punishment).
The saying comes from the use of both motivators to get a horse to pull a buggy (carriage, cart): A carrot was hung so the horse could see it just in front of him and would try to walk towards it (incentive). If the horse did not move towards the carrot, it was threatened with a stick (threat of punishment).
Note from asker:
| Thank you. I do know the meaning of this English phrase, I am looking for a Slovak equivalent. I have a feeling that there is a similar phrase in Slovak. Thank you anyway! |
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Maria Chmelarova
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návnadou a pohonom
nieco jemnejsie namiesto bič/trest vo vasom texte
navnadou a posunom (popohnanim)
carrot znamena aj návnada
Len na upresnenie, viem ze zmysel poznate:
carrot and stick- the traditional alternatives of driving a donkey (not horse) on by either holding out carrot or whipping it with a stick
.....characterized by use of reward and punishment
navnadou a posunom (popohnanim)
carrot znamena aj návnada
Len na upresnenie, viem ze zmysel poznate:
carrot and stick- the traditional alternatives of driving a donkey (not horse) on by either holding out carrot or whipping it with a stick
.....characterized by use of reward and punishment
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Matej Hasko
: obávam sa, že "metóda návnady a pohonu" by bolo dosť ťažko pochopiteľné slovné spojenie
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| disagree |
Sarka Rubkova
: takto sa to nepouziva
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Slavomir BELIS
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Účinná aktivačná politika musí motivovať, ale aj plieskať bičom, a to prostredníctvom...
Ja by som to preložil asi takto, čo je podľa môjho názoru presné, vecné, zrozumiteľné. Myslím si, že v tomto prípade, v tomto oficiálne znejúcom texte, nemusí byť za každú cenu nejaký ekvivalentný idióm alebo fráza, ktorý aj tak nikto nebude poznať a ktorý bude preto znieť cudzo.
Alebo aj:
Účinná aktivačná politika musí rovnako motivovať, ako aj plieskať bičom, a to prostredníctvom...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-05-31 21:28:26 GMT)
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Yes, I agree, so this might be even better.
... musí motivovať, ale aj poháňať, a to...
Alebo aj:
Účinná aktivačná politika musí rovnako motivovať, ako aj plieskať bičom, a to prostredníctvom...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-05-31 21:28:26 GMT)
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Yes, I agree, so this might be even better.
... musí motivovať, ale aj poháňať, a to...
Peer comment(s):
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Maria Chmelarova
: skuste ine slovo namiesto "bič"
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Máte pravdu, že ani ten bič tam veľmi nepasuje. Ja som sa toho držal, lebo Ján hľadal niečo na ten "bič". Ale ten "pohon" je tiež dobrý - ... musí motivovať, ale aj poháňať, a to...
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