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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

dossier d’agrément

English translation:

tax relief application

Added to glossary by Louisa Tchaicha
Dec 9, 2019 20:46
4 yrs ago
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French term

dossier d’agrément

French to English Other Engineering: Industrial
Hello,

This is a "note financière" from New Caledonia,
This comes under heading "analyse de la réclamation"

"Le scénario de référence qui permet de calculer la perte provient du dossier
d’agrément présenté à l’administration (ci-après appelé dossier de défiscalisation)
préalablement à l’importation des machines"

approval file? (hereinafter called "tax exemption file")

Thank you.
Proposed translations (English)
3 tax relief application
5 an application for authorization
4 -1 documents submitted for approval/approval file
4 -1 submission for approval of tax relief ("défiscalisation")
3 -1 VAT exemption certificate
References
La défisc [***en Nouvelle-Calédonie***] expliquée

Proposed translations

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tax relief application

Whatever we say, there will always be the problem of whether this is a refund, deduction, some form of relief, etc. I've gone for "relief" like Daryo, whose reference was also very useful.

On "dossier" and "agréement", a bit like "file" and "request", I feel that "application" covers both of these ideas and as suggested by Yassine.

So there is nothing groundbreaking in my suggestion which is just an amalgam to get sth that sounds right.
Reference:

https://www.gov.uk/income-tax-reliefs

Note from asker:
Thank you Safe Tex!
Peer comment(s):
disagree Yvonne Gallagher : it's a submission, not an "application" & "there will always be the problem of whether this is a refund, deduction, some form of relief" So, just stick a pin in? It says "tax exemption" later in sentence so no need for duplication
12 hrs
I have never heard anyone say that they "have handed in a submission for tax relief/exemption", nor that they sent an "approval file" to the tax office. If you too are going to start to dish out disagrees to others, please have a decent alternative.
agree Daryo : nothing wrong with this variant - it's just my personal preference to be more explicit when possible, but this is also perfectly usable.
40 days
Thanks for the belated agree.
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42 mins

an application for authorization

.
Note from asker:
Thank you Yassine!
Peer comment(s):
disagree mchd : cela s'écarte du contexte !
59 mins
agree Eliza Hall : The application, not an, but this is the gist.
22 hrs
neutral Daryo : a bit too much literal - there are enough elements available for a more precise translation // CL5 is *mildly* overoptimistic ...
22 hrs
neutral Yvonne Gallagher : approval and authorization are 2 different things and this is the former. Definitely not 100% CL
1 day 50 mins
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10 hrs

VAT exemption certificate

Note from asker:
Thank you Barbara!
Peer comment(s):
disagree Daryo : http://www.nouvelle-caledonie.gouv.fr/Politiques-publiques/E... // no VAT at all in New Caledonia
12 hrs
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14 hrs

documents submitted for approval/approval file

to the administration (hereinafter called "tax exemption file")

I prefer the longer version here.

https://iate.europa.eu/search/standard/result/1575975981750/...

It's New Caledonia so not necessarily looking for VAT exemption. Best to leave simply as "tax"



Note from asker:
Thank you Yvonne!
Peer comment(s):
agree Eliza Hall
8 hrs
Thanks:-)
disagree Daryo : It would have been submitted as ONE "file" containing a bundle of various individual documents, not each document separately // clue: "UN dossier ...", not "DES documents" + Bureaucracy for Dummies (still in preparation)
8 hrs
dossier=file=documents. Where does it say they are submitted separately. But file is also in heading, and is followed by the word file as well. Get a grip!
disagree SafeTex : I have never heard anyone say that they "have handed in a submission for tax relief/exemption", nor that they sent an "approval file" to the tax office. If you too are going to start to dish out disagrees to others, please have a decent alternative
1 day 1 hr
Oh a tit-for-tat disagree. Of course people submit files to the tax office! So IATA is wrong then? ("Approval file" was asker's shorthand for "file for approval").
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1 day 0 min

submission for approval of tax relief ("défiscalisation")

it does say only "dossier d’agrément" in the ST but there is an implied part left out as "obvious" - (obvious for those involved, not to any reader).

I think that adding that implied part can only improve readability/clarity for the first-time reader.

As this is a very specific form of tax relief, I would also add the original term for ease of back-translation/understanding.
Note from asker:
Thank you Daryo!
Peer comment(s):
disagree Yvonne Gallagher : over-translation and duplication. The rest of sentence tells any reader what they need to know//Do you think by overcomplicating everything that you will gain respect? I've news for you. It's the opposite.
1 hr
"any reader"? Yeah, sure - the man on the Clapham omnibus is a an expert in the New Caledonia's tax system - absolutely no doubts about that! // Sancta simplicitas as a method for translating? Why not try Urim and Thummim? not much better or worse ...
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Reference comments

23 hrs
Reference:

La défisc [***en Nouvelle-Calédonie***] expliquée

La défisc expliquée
Mise à jour le 20/02/2019


Le dispositif dit de « défiscalisation outre-mer » est un outil d’aide de l’Etat aux projets ultra-marins issus du privé.

Concrètement, il permet à des contribuables métropolitains de bénéficier d’une réduction d’impôts en contrepartie de leur financement d’un investissement productif relevant d'un secteur éligible. Le dispositif s’adresse aussi bien à des contribuables personnes physiques (soumis à l'IR), qu’à des entreprises (soumis à l'IS).

L'entreprise locale, utilisatrice du bien, garde la maîtrise de l'investissement; elle réalise l'investissement (commande un matériel, construit un immeuble...) puis le cède avant sa mise en exploitation à un groupement fiscalement transparent regroupant les contribuables métropolitains.

Les investisseurs métropolitains le louent pendant 5 ans minimum à l'entreprise calédonienne utilisatrice, le montant des loyers étant égal au remboursement de l’emprunt (l’apport des contribuables métropolitains ayant permis de diminuer d’environ 30% le montant de l’apport bancaire). L’entreprise calédonienne récupère la propriété du bien au terme des 5 ans.

Depuis l’origine, la défiscalisation métropolitaine a financé de nombreux projets structurants indispensables au développement de l’économie calédonienne :

les usines métallurgiques de KNS et de Vale NC,
les Airbus d’Aircalin,
les ATR d’Air Calédonie,
les navires Betico I et Betico II,
le câble sous-marin Gondwana,
la 3G,
la construction de l’hôtel Sheraton de Gouaro Deva,
la rénovation des hôtels Drehu Village,
Nengone Village,
le Château Royal Beach Hôtel,
le Tiéti Téra Beach Resort, etc…
Le Paradis d'Ouvéa
Le futur hôtel "Wadra Bay" de Lifou

http://www.nouvelle-caledonie.gouv.fr/Politiques-publiques/E...

http://www.limmo.nc/les-dossiers-de-l-immobilier/investir/de...

https://gouv.nc/sites/default/files/atoms/files/10064860.PDF

https://www.tacotax.fr/guides/defiscalisation/defiscaliser-i...

etc.
Note from asker:
Merci Daryo !
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