What’s a language, anyway?

Source: The Atlantic
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What’s the difference between a language and a dialect? Is there some kind of technical distinction, the way there is between a quasar and a pulsar, or between a rabbit and a hare? Faced with the question, linguists like to repeat the grand old observation of the linguist and Yiddishist Max Weinreich, that “a language is a dialect with an army and a navy.”

But surely the difference is deeper than a snappy aphorism suggests. The very fact that “language” and “dialect” persist as separate concepts implies that linguists can make tidy distinctions for speech varieties worldwide. But in fact, there is no objective difference between the two: Any attempt you make to impose that kind of order on reality falls apart in the face of real evidence. More.

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What’s a language, anyway?
Michele Fauble
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Dialects and languages Jan 23, 2016

They are all dialects, and some are also languages.

 
Merab Dekano
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Some dialects are so apart from their language that you cannot really understand anything. Other languages are so similar to another language that if you speak one of them you can understand the other.

What is a language? Thomas Hampson said if you take vowels and put some consonants in between, the speed you use the consonants will determine the language. That's singer's perspective (I will not bore you with linguist's perspective here).


 
Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
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A language exists if their users can afford it Jan 24, 2016

To me, calling a certain way of speaking a "language" is mostly a matter of politics and resources: politics because standardisation of a language requires legal (i.e. approved in some form of parliament/freely elected government) means of discrediting/prohibiting other languages people may speak in a certain region that is the object of nation creation movements; and resources because standardisation and imposition of the new language requires money invested in terminology, regulating authoriti... See more
To me, calling a certain way of speaking a "language" is mostly a matter of politics and resources: politics because standardisation of a language requires legal (i.e. approved in some form of parliament/freely elected government) means of discrediting/prohibiting other languages people may speak in a certain region that is the object of nation creation movements; and resources because standardisation and imposition of the new language requires money invested in terminology, regulating authorities, teacher training, and intense official or officially-funded production of materials in the newly standardised language.

So, all in all, indeed the existence of a "language" requires a navy and an army, even if in figurative terms.
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LilianNekipelov
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A language is a dialect with an army and a navy. Jan 25, 2016

According to one linguist. I think this is correct in its essence. A language is a standardized dialect, in my opinion, often an official language of a state.
All dialects are really languages, from another point of view. i think what is becoming more and more common in terms of usage, are idiolects. Most people speak in idiolects.

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Tom in London
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If you don't know by now Jan 25, 2016

If you don't know the answer to that question maybe it's time for Chomsky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdUbIlwHRkY


 

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