Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
Vitamin E-stripped soybean oil
French translation:
huile de soja purifiée, sans vitamine E
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Bertrand Leduc
Dec 16, 2019 15:01
4 yrs ago
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English term
Vitamin E-stripped soybean oil
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Placebo utilisé dans un essai clinique
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Dec 17, 2019 16:30: Bertrand Leduc Created KOG entry
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huile de soja purifiée, sans vitamine E
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Drmanu49
: stripped n'est pas traduit Bertrand.
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''purifiée'' et ''sans vitamine E'' impliquent un procédé d'élimination
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Daryo
: la vitamine E n'est pas "une impureté" - loin de là!!!
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Purifier = éliminer toute molécule indésirable. Dans le cas d'un placebo, la Vit E est ''indésirable''.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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huile de soja débarrassée de sa vitamine E
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"Dietary oxidized frying oil enhances tissue alpha-tocopherol ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › pubmed
by JF Liu - 1996 - Cited by 63 - Related articles
Two groups of male weanling Long-Evans rats were fed vitamin E-deficient diets containing either 15% OFO or 15% vitamin E-stripped fresh soybean oil ..."
soybean oil stripped of its vitamin E; Notice the hyphen "vitaminE-stripped"
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"Dietary oxidized frying oil enhances tissue alpha-tocopherol ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › pubmed
by JF Liu - 1996 - Cited by 63 - Related articles
Two groups of male weanling Long-Evans rats were fed vitamin E-deficient diets containing either 15% OFO or 15% vitamin E-stripped fresh soybean oil ..."
soybean oil stripped of its vitamin E; Notice the hyphen "vitaminE-stripped"
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: "débarrassée" doesn't sound right - wrong connotations. Nothing wrong with vitamin E so why would there be any need to "get rid of it"??? More likely implication: vitamin E is missing //Le brigand les a "débarrassé" de leurs possessions?
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well soy oil is rich of vitamin E. Strip it of its E vitamin, you get the perfecct placebo...
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huile de soja exempte de vitamine E
ou sans vitamine E
Un placebo est un procédé ... Dans le domaine du médicament, un « placebo pur » est un traitement sans aucune substance active.
Un placebo est un procédé ... Dans le domaine du médicament, un « placebo pur » est un traitement sans aucune substance active.
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GILLES MEUNIER
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Drmanu49
: Non exempte ne traduit pas stripped.
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Huile de soja purifiée/appauvrie en vitamine E
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Huile de soja purifiée/appauvri en vitamine E ?
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Tout dépend du contexte mais ici j'aurais tendance à dire Huile de soja purifiée/appauvri en vitamine E
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https://www.lanutrition.fr › les-news › la-vitamine-e-des-huiles-de-colza-so...
22 mai 2014 - La vitamine E des huiles de soja, maïs et colza (gamma-tocophérol) serait associée à une diminution de la fonction respiratoire, contrairement ...
Drmanu49
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J'ai remis ma dernière réponse puisque l'entrée initiale ne plaisait pas. C'est dommage que les pairs ne lisent pas jusqu'au bout la discussion.
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Huile de soja purifiée/appauvri en vitamine E ?
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Tout dépend du contexte mais ici j'aurais tendance à dire Huile de soja purifiée/appauvri en vitamine E
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Note added at 18 heures (2019-12-17 09:31:56 GMT)
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https://www.lanutrition.fr › les-news › la-vitamine-e-des-huiles-de-colza-so...
22 mai 2014 - La vitamine E des huiles de soja, maïs et colza (gamma-tocophérol) serait associée à une diminution de la fonction respiratoire, contrairement ...
Drmanu49
France
Local time: 10:51
(edit your time)
Spécialisé dans le domaine
Langue maternelle : anglais, français
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 1642
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J'ai remis ma dernière réponse puisque l'entrée initiale ne plaisait pas. C'est dommage que les pairs ne lisent pas jusqu'au bout la discussion.
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Bertrand Leduc
: ‘’Stripped’’, a fortiori dans le cas d’un placebo, signifie une élimination complète des molécules de vitamine E. ‘’Appauvrie’’ ne fait référence qu’à une diminution de la concentration en Vit E.
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Je ne sais pas s'il est possible de l'éliminer complètement mais d'accord sur le fond Bertrand.
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English term (edited):
vitamin-E stripped soybean oil
Huile de soja appauvrie en vitamine E
Huile de soja appauvrie en vitamine E = l'huile est "appauvrie"
the few ghits with "vitamin-E stripped soybean oil" are all about studies on rats about the effects of deficiency in vitamin E (low content of vitamin E in soybean oil), so the appropriate adjective is "appauvri".
"vitamin-E stripped soybean oil" is given to control groups to compare with the effects of that diet with the "normal" soybean oil. In what is given to control groups vitamin E is missing NOT "taken away as noxious".
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/14391490_Dietary_Ox...
for more, search for "vitamin E-stripped soybean oil".
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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (
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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (
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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (
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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (%3C 10 mg/kg total tocopherol) compared to regular soybean oil indicated substantial losses of ...
take note: LESS THAN 10 mg/kg total tocopherol -- not -- ZERO
as confirmed later:
[Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (
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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (less than 10 mg/kg total tocopherol) compared to regular soybean oil indicated substantial losses of ...
take note: LESS THAN 10 mg/kg total tocopherol -- not -- ZERO
(tocopherol = vitamin E)
as confirmed later:
[Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (less than 10 mg/kg total tocopherol) compared to regular soybean oil indicated substantial losses of] phylloquinone associated with the process of stripping vitamin E from the oil (10.1 vs. 179 μg/100 g oil for the stripped vs. regular soybean oil, respectively).
https://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10...
the few ghits with "vitamin-E stripped soybean oil" are all about studies on rats about the effects of deficiency in vitamin E (low content of vitamin E in soybean oil), so the appropriate adjective is "appauvri".
"vitamin-E stripped soybean oil" is given to control groups to compare with the effects of that diet with the "normal" soybean oil. In what is given to control groups vitamin E is missing NOT "taken away as noxious".
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/14391490_Dietary_Ox...
for more, search for "vitamin E-stripped soybean oil".
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2019-12-17 21:12:52 GMT) Post-grading
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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2019-12-17 21:14:10 GMT) Post-grading
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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2019-12-17 21:16:14 GMT) Post-grading
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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2019-12-17 21:20:21 GMT) Post-grading
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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (%3C 10 mg/kg total tocopherol) compared to regular soybean oil indicated substantial losses of ...
take note: LESS THAN 10 mg/kg total tocopherol -- not -- ZERO
as confirmed later:
[Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2019-12-17 21:25:16 GMT) Post-grading
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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (less than 10 mg/kg total tocopherol) compared to regular soybean oil indicated substantial losses of ...
take note: LESS THAN 10 mg/kg total tocopherol -- not -- ZERO
(tocopherol = vitamin E)
as confirmed later:
[Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (less than 10 mg/kg total tocopherol) compared to regular soybean oil indicated substantial losses of] phylloquinone associated with the process of stripping vitamin E from the oil (10.1 vs. 179 μg/100 g oil for the stripped vs. regular soybean oil, respectively).
https://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10...
Peer comment(s):
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Drmanu49
: That is the last answer I gave.// If you can't make the difference between discussion and guesses you disappoint me. And in the course of dicussion it was my last suggestion not guess.
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no, the way you presented it, it was part of a list of several guesses given as "explanation" for a wrong answer.
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Bertrand Leduc
: ‘’Stripped’’, a fortiori dans le cas d’un placebo, signifie une élimination complète des molécules de vitamine E. ‘’Appauvri’’ ne fait référence qu’à une diminution de la concentration en Vit E.
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"une élimination complète des molécules de vitamine E" = OUI théoriquement, peut-être, MAIS il y a souvent des "mais" ... process of stripping vitamin E from the oil (**10.1** vs. **179 μg/100 g oil** for the stripped vs. regular soybean oil, ...
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GILLES MEUNIER
: exempte de vitamine E
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Germaine
: Cf. discussion. Cohérent avec d'autres résultats de recherches. Ce que je ne comprends pas, c'est que d'une même personne, la même réponse de Drmanu mérite un Neutral, mais la tienne, un disagree... Et je ne parlerai pas du commentaire de Gilou.
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Discussion
Quant à la portée du terme "vitamin-E stripped", voir, par exemple les résultats du tableau 4 de cet article:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15699289_Tissue_-to...
Il semble que le commentaire de Drmanu à l'égard de l'élimination totale de la vitamine-E s'applique. Par ailleurs, dans un contexte comme celui-ci, appauvrir" = diminuer ou épuiser; faire perdre une partie de ses composants ou en diminuer le taux.
https://feedtables.com/fr/content/huile-de-soja