Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Greek term or phrase:
αλλογενείς
English translation:
aliens who are not ethnic Greeks/aliens of non-Greek ethnic origin
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Natalia Alexiou
Aug 22, 2007 22:45
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αλλογενείς
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Χορήγηση νέων υποτροφιών προς αλλογενείς, ομογενείς και αποδήμους σπουδαστές
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +4 | aliens who are not ethnic Greeks/aliens of non-Greek ethnic origin |
Natalia Alexiou
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| 4 | foreign-born |
Vicky Papaprodromou
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| 4 -1 | alien |
Nick Lingris
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Change log
Aug 23, 2007 07:42: Vicky Papaprodromou changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/603568">Maria Arelaki's</a> old entry - "αλλογενείς"" to ""foreign-born""
Sep 5, 2007 11:16: Natalia Alexiou changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/44663">Vicky Papaprodromou's</a> old entry - """ to """"
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aliens who are not ethnic Greeks/aliens of non-Greek ethnic origin
Θα προσπαθήσω να το εξηγήσω γιατί είναι λίγο περίπλοκο.
Αλλογενής είναι το αντίθετο του ομογενούς (http://www.proz.com/kudoz/2099390).
Υπάρχουν αλλογενείς αλλοδαποί (π.χ. ένας Ρουμάνος που βρίσκεται εδώ με άδεια παραμονής), αλλογενείς ημεδαποί (π.χ. ένας Νιγηριανός που πολιτογραφήθηκε Έλληνας) [ωστόσο, δεν πολυχρησιμοποιείται αυτός ο όρος γιατί υποδηλώνει διακρίσεις μεταξύ των Ελλήνων πολιτών], ομογενείς ημεδαποί (δεν χρησιμοποιείται γιατί τέτοιοι είναι οι περισσότεροι Έλληνες) και ομογενείς αλλοδαποί (π.χ. οι Πόντιοι της Γεωργίας που δεν έχουν λάβει την ελληνική ιθαγένεια).
Κάποιος που έχει γεννηθεί στην Ελλάδα από αλλοδαπούς γονείς είναι αλλογενής χωρίς να είναι foreign-born.
Επίσης, ένας αλλογενής δεν είναι απαραίτητο να είναι αλλοδαπός (alien), γιατί μπορεί να έχει πολιτογραφηθεί Έλληνας. Αυτό όμως δεν αλλάζει το γεγονός ότι δεν κατάγεται από "Έλληνες το γένος".
Να παρατηρήσω, τέλος, ότι η Ελλάδα έχει δεχθεί διεθνή κριτική για τις διακρίσεις που πραγματοποιεί εις βάρος των αλλογενών.
Αλλογενής είναι το αντίθετο του ομογενούς (http://www.proz.com/kudoz/2099390).
Υπάρχουν αλλογενείς αλλοδαποί (π.χ. ένας Ρουμάνος που βρίσκεται εδώ με άδεια παραμονής), αλλογενείς ημεδαποί (π.χ. ένας Νιγηριανός που πολιτογραφήθηκε Έλληνας) [ωστόσο, δεν πολυχρησιμοποιείται αυτός ο όρος γιατί υποδηλώνει διακρίσεις μεταξύ των Ελλήνων πολιτών], ομογενείς ημεδαποί (δεν χρησιμοποιείται γιατί τέτοιοι είναι οι περισσότεροι Έλληνες) και ομογενείς αλλοδαποί (π.χ. οι Πόντιοι της Γεωργίας που δεν έχουν λάβει την ελληνική ιθαγένεια).
Κάποιος που έχει γεννηθεί στην Ελλάδα από αλλοδαπούς γονείς είναι αλλογενής χωρίς να είναι foreign-born.
Επίσης, ένας αλλογενής δεν είναι απαραίτητο να είναι αλλοδαπός (alien), γιατί μπορεί να έχει πολιτογραφηθεί Έλληνας. Αυτό όμως δεν αλλάζει το γεγονός ότι δεν κατάγεται από "Έλληνες το γένος".
Να παρατηρήσω, τέλος, ότι η Ελλάδα έχει δεχθεί διεθνή κριτική για τις διακρίσεις που πραγματοποιεί εις βάρος των αλλογενών.
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Nick Lingris
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alien
Ως επίθετο εδώ, alien students.
Αντί του foreign.
Αντί του foreign.
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Vicky Papaprodromou
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foreign-born
Foreign born (also non-native) is a term used to describe a person born outside of their country of residence. Foreign born are often non-citizens, but are also frequently naturalized citizens of a country.
The term foreign born encompasses both immigrants and expatriates but is not synonymous with either. Foreign born may, like immigrants, have committed to living in a country permanently or, like expatriates, live abroad for a significant period with the plan to return to their birth-country eventually.
The status of foreign born — particularly their access to citizenship — differs globally. The large groups of foreign born guest workers in the Gulf States, for example, have no right to citizenship no matter the length of their residence. In Canada and the United States, by contrast, foreign born are often citizens or in the process of becoming citizens. Certain countries have intermediary rules: in Germany and Japan it is often difficult but not impossible for the foreign born to become citizens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_born
http://www.google.com/search?hl=el&rlz=1B2GGFB_enGR225GR225&...
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Note added at 6 mins (2007-08-22 22:52:47 GMT)
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OBJECTIVES
I have chosen to write a unit which will help foreign-born students to develop their skills in writing reports. I feel that the foreign-born students are at a disadvantage because they are not made aware of resources available to them and how to put them together. They must be exposed to all the available materials before they can begin their assignment. Those students born in the United States are exposed to these skills during grammar school and in junior high school and also in high school.
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1981/4/81.04.09.x...
The term foreign born encompasses both immigrants and expatriates but is not synonymous with either. Foreign born may, like immigrants, have committed to living in a country permanently or, like expatriates, live abroad for a significant period with the plan to return to their birth-country eventually.
The status of foreign born — particularly their access to citizenship — differs globally. The large groups of foreign born guest workers in the Gulf States, for example, have no right to citizenship no matter the length of their residence. In Canada and the United States, by contrast, foreign born are often citizens or in the process of becoming citizens. Certain countries have intermediary rules: in Germany and Japan it is often difficult but not impossible for the foreign born to become citizens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_born
http://www.google.com/search?hl=el&rlz=1B2GGFB_enGR225GR225&...
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Note added at 6 mins (2007-08-22 22:52:47 GMT)
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OBJECTIVES
I have chosen to write a unit which will help foreign-born students to develop their skills in writing reports. I feel that the foreign-born students are at a disadvantage because they are not made aware of resources available to them and how to put them together. They must be exposed to all the available materials before they can begin their assignment. Those students born in the United States are exposed to these skills during grammar school and in junior high school and also in high school.
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1981/4/81.04.09.x...
Peer comment(s):
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Nick Lingris
: Και γλωσσικά ακριβέστερο. // Αφήνω το λάθος μου, μην μπουν άλλοι σε πειρασμό να το προσθέσουν, επειδή παίζει πολύ το nonresident aliens.
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Ευχαριστώ, Νίκο μου.//ΟΚ.
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| disagree |
Natalia Alexiou
: Δυστυχώς, δεν είναι ακριβής όρος. Βλ. την απάντησή μου.
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