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乱世用重典 May 14, 2009

Steve,

是的,不重判重罚是无法杜绝这类犯规现象的。 国外的人到中国之后对于机动车辆不让行人的行为都深恶痛绝,但国内的老百姓对此却普遍持司空见惯、逆来顺受的态度,因为他们觉得无力改变。Jason Young 在前面所说的话就是一种写照。
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没法改变

Bin Tiede,你说的对。但身在中国,心有余而力不足啊。反映了,没用,你知道为什么吗?因为这里还没撞死过人,而且一个也不行,肯定得多几个以后政府才会来看看这个问题,就像“三鹿”一样。我们是应该和不好的东西做斗争,但我现在选择了量力而行,不是消极,是具有中国特色的乐观主义,否则只有被气出病来。


所以,关键还是在于交通管理部门、司法部门执法不力。如果遇到开车不让行人的驾车人,即使在不发生事故的情况下,警察也能见一个罚一个(例如每次罚300-500人民币。我估计我们这里至少会罚150美元);对于屡犯达3次者,即吊销执照;对于像胡斌这样的肇事者,就判他个20年;那么,我相信很快就能把这种犯规现象减到最低限度。

杭州警方甚至完全根据肇事者本人及其同伴的说法而得出肇事车速为“欺实马”(70码)的结论。我看这些警察简直是些法盲。 我相信“欺实马”一说将与秦桧的“莫须有”一样遗臭万年。

http://society.people.com.cn/GB/9303240.html
“据鉴定机构出具的鉴定结论,认定肇事车在事发路段行车速度在每小时84.1公里至101.2公里范围内,且肇事车辆(浙A608Z0小型轿车)的发动机进排气系统、前照灯、悬挂、轮胎与轮辋、车身内部等,已在原车型的基础上被改装或部分改装。”

[Edited at 2009-05-14 16:49 GMT]


 
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“迟到的监管”并不只是杭州专利 May 14, 2009

不过这些评论员的评论还是很不错的。

《又见监管迟到》
http://space.tv.cctv.com/video/VIDE1242226792692433

《央视炮轰富家子飙车命案:地方监管失职渎职》
http://edu.people.com.cn/GB/9298411.html


 
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玩漂移 - car drifting game May 15, 2009

Steve,

你见过在城市街道上“玩漂移”吗?我可是第一次听说。令人难以置信的是,交通警居然对此置若罔闻。 我们这里只有在汽车大赛实况转播和汽车商的广告片中才能看到。

http://news.xinhuanet.com/photo/2009-02/09/content_10785559.htm


 
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car drifting May 15, 2009

ysun wrote:

Steve,

你见过在城市街道上“玩漂移”吗?我可是第一次听说。令人难以置信的是,交通警居然对此置若罔闻。 我们这里只有在汽车大赛实况转播和汽车商的广告片中才能看到。

http://news.xinhuanet.com/photo/2009-02/09/content_10785559.htm


No, never. Something like that done on public roads would definitely be illegal and punishable by law.

The only place I've seen these kinds of daredevil maneuvers is in commercials or movies. Movies like "Bourne", "The Transporter", "The Fast and the Furious", etc. have plenty of car-chasing sequences that contain these stunts. But they are performed by stuntmen, and aren't meant to be emulated in real life, except for perhaps on drag race racetracks like you said.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQcWxl-GPD8


Here's a clip that has a segment that shows how those circular tire tracks are made ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNQS7CuTB9c



[Edited at 2009-05-15 11:27 GMT]


 
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“二环十三妹” May 15, 2009

这种在北京二环路上狂飚130 ‘码’的冷血飚车族居然还有冷血主播为她狂、为她加油!难怪谭卓会命丧杭州!

http://bbs.news.163.com/bbs/shishi/133385589.html

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/swD5zuHXg4U

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这种在北京二环路上狂飚130 ‘码’的冷血飚车族居然还有冷血主播为她狂、为她加油!难怪谭卓会命丧杭州!

http://bbs.news.163.com/bbs/shishi/133385589.html

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/swD5zuHXg4U

还有那个“二环十三郎”,在13分钟内沿着二环路跑一圈,居然能畅行无阻没人拦!北京二环路全长32.7公里。也就是说,时速至少得150 公里/小时才能在13分钟内跑完一圈!

32.7公里 / 13 分钟 x 60 = 150.9 公里/小时 = 93.8 英里/小时


[Edited at 2009-05-16 02:01 GMT]
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谁的天堂?! May 15, 2009

5月15日9:45分 天堂杭州又见70码宝马车撞碎三口之家
http://www.xiaby.com/show.php?tid=714

据说这辆肇事的宝马车,从2007年8月23日至2009年5月11日不到两年的时间内,竟有14次违章纪录。杭州简直是违章驾驶者的天堂!

不知那位年仅4岁、头上流血、一动不动地躺在马路上的
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5月15日9:45分 天堂杭州又见70码宝马车撞碎三口之家
http://www.xiaby.com/show.php?tid=714

据说这辆肇事的宝马车,从2007年8月23日至2009年5月11日不到两年的时间内,竟有14次违章纪录。杭州简直是违章驾驶者的天堂!

不知那位年仅4岁、头上流血、一动不动地躺在马路上的可怜小女孩是否还能活下来?愿上天保佑她!
http://www.xiaby.com/attachments.php?aid=2741

杭州萧山宝马车撞上一家3口 母女伤势严重
http://news.163.com/09/0515/17/59CFMDF80001124J.html

上海宝马撞人:肇事司机十个月超速13次 竟然还指责受害者
http://news.163.com/09/0515/17/59CEU8TT000120GR.html


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'drifting', 'boy-racers'; tragic situations involving bystanders May 15, 2009

ysun wrote:

Steve,

你见过在城市街道上“玩漂移”吗?我可是第一次听说。令人难以置信的是,交通警居然对此置若罔闻。 我们这里只有在汽车大赛实况转播和汽车商的广告片中才能看到。

http://news.xinhuanet.com/photo/2009-02/09/content_10785559.htm


Article about 'boy-racers', 'drifting' and public order here:
http://www.footprintsecurity.com.au/z_art_080508_Cameras_brake_boy_racers.php
'Drifting' as a motorsport here:
http://www.canterburycarclub.co.nz/extras/Drifting_Event.php

Leaving those marks: doing 'wheelies' 'burnouts' 'doughnuts' are all terms used - burning rubber like that, it must be expensive.

Deaths at parties: There have been several high-profile cases of young people running into groups and killing people at parties in NZ in recent years.

[Deaths at parties: The verdicts and sentences: murder, 17 years in jail, Edgeware Road case 2008, (appeal in progress); manslaughter, 28 months (Kamo case, 2004). http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10506470 (see summary at foot of page)]

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中国是否应该引入 May 15, 2009

Wiki:

Vehicular homicide (also known as vehicular manslaughter) in most states in the United States, is a crime. In general, it involves death that results from the negligent operation of a vehicle, or that results from driving whilst committing an unlawful act that does not amount to a felony. In general, it is a lesser charge than manslaughter. In the Model Penal Code there is no separate category of vehicular homicide, and vehicular homicides that involve negligence are included
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Wiki:

Vehicular homicide (also known as vehicular manslaughter) in most states in the United States, is a crime. In general, it involves death that results from the negligent operation of a vehicle, or that results from driving whilst committing an unlawful act that does not amount to a felony. In general, it is a lesser charge than manslaughter. In the Model Penal Code there is no separate category of vehicular homicide, and vehicular homicides that involve negligence are included in the overall category of negligent homicide.[1][2] It can be compared to the offence of dangerous driving causing death in other countries.

All states except Alaska, Montana, and Arizona have vehicular homicide statutes. The laws have the effect of making a vehicle a potentially deadly weapon, to allow for easier conviction and more severe penalties. In states without such statutes, defendants can still be charged with manslaughter or murder in some situations.[3]

The victim may be either a person not in the car with the offender, such as a pedestrian or another motorist, or a passenger in the vehicle with the offender.[4]

There are proposals in other countries to adopt the single nomenclature of "vehicular homicide" as it is used in the United States.
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社会舆论 May 16, 2009

ysun wrote:

这种在北京二环路上狂飚130 ‘码’的冷血飚车族居然还有冷血主播为她狂、为她加油!难怪谭卓会命丧杭州!

http://bbs.news.163.com/bbs/shishi/133385589.html

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/swD5zuHXg4U

还有那个“二环十三郎”,在13分钟内沿着并非是完全封闭的二环路跑一圈,居然能畅行无阻没人拦!北京二环路全长32.7公里。也就是说,时速至少得150 公里/小时才能在13分钟内跑完一圈!

32.7公里 / 13 分钟 x 60 = 150.9 公里/小时 = 93.8 英里/小时



我觉得最令人惊讶的是主持人的愚昧. 还在那儿不断给以飚车出名的人嬉皮笑脸地吹捧. 底下观众也毫无负面反应, 反而只是跟着笑. 媒体喉舌觉悟程度与正义感尚且如此低下, 难怪大多数老百姓对这种恶劣行为视而不见、习以为常呢.



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所以说那主持人也是个‘十三’妹 May 16, 2009

You know what I mean.

She would get fired immediately on the spot if she were in the United States!
wherestip wrote:

我觉得最令人惊讶的是主持人的愚昧. 还在那儿不断给以飚车出名的人嬉皮笑脸地吹捧. 底下观众也毫无负面反应, 反而只是跟着笑. 媒体喉舌觉悟程度与正义感尚且如此低下, 难怪大多数老百姓对这种恶劣行为视而不见、习以为常呢.


[Edited at 2009-05-16 03:44 GMT]


 
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5.15杭州再次上演宝马撞死人重大事故 May 16, 2009

杭州一家三口骑电瓶车被宝马车撞飞(图)
http://info.chinaren.com/html/2009-05/25454.html


 
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深圳泥头车频繁超载,经常出事 May 16, 2009

深圳北环大道泥头车侧翻压扁小车 两死一伤
http://bbs.pcauto.com.cn/topic-1062379.html

深圳泥头车压扁越野车 五男女一儿童惨死
http://news.21cn.com/guangdong/shenzhen/2008/11/16/5478444.shtml

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深圳北环大道泥头车侧翻压扁小车 两死一伤
http://bbs.pcauto.com.cn/topic-1062379.html

深圳泥头车压扁越野车 五男女一儿童惨死
http://news.21cn.com/guangdong/shenzhen/2008/11/16/5478444.shtml

泥头车闯红灯 吞噬一女童
http://www.oeeee.com/a/20090320/709617.html

深圳四部门管不了频繁肇事的“泥头车”
http://news.xinhuanet.com/focus/2009-04/14/content_11183004.htm



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可称‘十三’太 May 16, 2009

ysun wrote:

所以说那主持人也是个‘十三’妹

You know what I mean.

She would get fired immediately on the spot if she were in the United States!



Yep. I know what you mean, Yueyin.

原先我家阿姨是扬州人, 所以江浙一带的一些说法我也懂得些. 她从前经常说谁谁 "十三点"



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扯句随感 May 16, 2009

nigerose wrote:


深圳四部门管不了频繁肇事的“泥头车”
http://news.xinhuanet.com/focus/2009-04/14/content_11183004.htm



其实我看不顾质量、一天译一万字 和乱开 "泥头车" 也差不了多少. 只不过一般出不了人命就是了.



[Edited at 2009-05-16 18:17 GMT]


 
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类比 May 17, 2009

wherestip wrote:

nigerose wrote:


深圳四部门管不了频繁肇事的“泥头车”
http://news.xinhuanet.com/focus/2009-04/14/content_11183004.htm



其实我看不顾质量、一天译一万字 和乱开 "泥头车" 也差不了多少. 只不过一般出不了人命就是了.



[Edited at 2009-05-16 18:17 GMT]


我正想做这样的类比,没想到给你抢先了。


 
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