May 10, 2005 15:46
19 yrs ago
Russian term
ДПВТПЧПМШОП-РТЙОХДЙФЕМШОП
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Does this sound as lunatic in Russian as it does in English? Or is there some obscure meaning?
- фП ЕУФШ чЩ УЮЙФБЕФЕ, ЮФП ЬФП РТЙОХДЙФЕМШОП ЧУЕ ДПМЦОП ВЩФШ?
- т: дБ, ЬФП ДПМЦОП ВЩФШ ДПВТПЧПМШОП-РТЙОХДЙФЕМШОП ДБ. лБЛ ЧПФ УЕКЮБУ ОБУ РТЙОХДЙМЙ ЧУЕИ РПКФЙ РПУФБЧЙФШ РТЙЧЙЧЛЙ ПФ ЛПТЙ, РПФПНХ ЮФП ЬРЙДЕНЙС.
- фП ЕУФШ чЩ УЮЙФБЕФЕ, ЮФП ЬФП РТЙОХДЙФЕМШОП ЧУЕ ДПМЦОП ВЩФШ?
- т: дБ, ЬФП ДПМЦОП ВЩФШ ДПВТПЧПМШОП-РТЙОХДЙФЕМШОП ДБ. лБЛ ЧПФ УЕКЮБУ ОБУ РТЙОХДЙМЙ ЧУЕИ РПКФЙ РПУФБЧЙФШ РТЙЧЙЧЛЙ ПФ ЛПТЙ, РПФПНХ ЮФП ЬРЙДЕНЙС.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +7 | so called voluntary participation |
Olga Judina
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| 5 | Officially, it's voluntary but in fact it's obligatory |
w77 (X)
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Proposed translations
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Olga Judina
Latvia
Latvia
Native in Russian
Latvia
translating since 1990
Native in: Russian
Works in: Latvian to Russian, Latvian to English, English to Russian, and 5 more.
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Russian term (edited):
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so called voluntary participation
it's also from the Soviet reality. Many things were said to be voluntary while in fact they were compulsory. Hence the saying ДПВТПЧПМШОП-РТЙОХДЙФЕМШОП.
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Note added at 19 hrs 24 mins (2005-05-11 11:10:58 GMT)
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yes, the expression is ironic, but I\'m under the impression that the respondent is serious
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Note added at 19 hrs 24 mins (2005-05-11 11:10:58 GMT)
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yes, the expression is ironic, but I\'m under the impression that the respondent is serious
Peer comment(s):
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Kirill Semenov
: ;-)
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:-) от улыбки... ля-ля-ля-ля-ля
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Jack Doughty
: As the sergeants say: "I want three volunteers - you, you and you!"
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exactly
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Robert Donahue (X)
: In the U.S. military we call it being "voluntold". : )
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nice word :)
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Mikhail Kropotov
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Sara Noss
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Elina Tsitrin
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Andrey Belousov (X)
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to both. Hm, I don't think we've got a ready-made expression, analogous to "accidentally on purpose", especially to express that the speaker is not really aware of the irony. Any ideas, English speakers?"
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Russian term (edited):
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Officially, it's voluntary but in fact it's obligatory
Like, in Soviet times everybody had to participate in May 1 demonstraions (or 'subbotniks') "ДПВТПЧПМШОП-РТЙОХДЙФЕМШОП"
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Note added at 15 mins (2005-05-10 16:01:39 GMT)
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Found Litera\'s suggestion after I posted mine. Almost the same
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Note added at 19 hrs 6 mins (2005-05-11 10:53:09 GMT)
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Yes, the expression is indeed ironic.
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Note added at 15 mins (2005-05-10 16:01:39 GMT)
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Found Litera\'s suggestion after I posted mine. Almost the same
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Note added at 19 hrs 6 mins (2005-05-11 10:53:09 GMT)
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Yes, the expression is indeed ironic.
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