Oct 7, 2005 09:33
18 yrs ago
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Dutch term
gevraagd of ongevraagd
Dutch to English
Bus/Financial
Human Resources
General context: NL company regulations document regarding internal confidential contact persons (vertrouwenspersonen).
Specific context: in a bullet list of what the person does (first item under 'definitie vertrouwenspersoon'):
'adviseert de directie gevraagd of ongevraagd op verzoek op het gebied van preventie en bestrijding van ongewenste omgangsvormen.'
My take is that either 'gevraagd of ongevraagd' is such a cliche that people use it without thinking about the literal meaning, or there's something wrong with the construction of the phrase.
Specific context: in a bullet list of what the person does (first item under 'definitie vertrouwenspersoon'):
'adviseert de directie gevraagd of ongevraagd op verzoek op het gebied van preventie en bestrijding van ongewenste omgangsvormen.'
My take is that either 'gevraagd of ongevraagd' is such a cliche that people use it without thinking about the literal meaning, or there's something wrong with the construction of the phrase.
Proposed translations
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| 3 +5 | h: delete it |
Evert DELOOF-SYS
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| 3 +1 | on his own initiative or by request |
Serge L
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| 3 | invited or self-invited |
Alexander Taguiltsev
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Proposed translations
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3 mins
Evert DELOOF-SYS
Belgium
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h: delete it
'gevraagd of ongevraagd', maar tegelijkertijd 'op verzoek'?
Zou dit inderdaad weglaten en klant (desgevallend) verwittigen.
Zou dit inderdaad weglaten en klant (desgevallend) verwittigen.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks. FWIW, I asked the client via the agency and received a nice explanation of the meaning of 'gevraagd' and 'ongevraagd', with the comment that 'de vraag niet geheel duidelijk is'. So I put this down to idiom or selective blindness. Harry has a valid point, but I don't think that's what's intended here."
+1
4 mins
on his own initiative or by request
een suggestie...
HTH,
Serge L.
HTH,
Serge L.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Tina Vonhof (X)
: en 'op verzoek' weglaten.
8 hrs
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Dat was wat ik in gedachten had, inderdaad :o)
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6 mins
Alexander Taguiltsev
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
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Native in: Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia)
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English
invited or self-invited
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
MoiraB
: not very natural English, I'm afraid
6 mins
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Yeh, not quite, thank you.
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