Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Oberflur
English translation:
* name of an area *
Added to glossary by
Friderike Butler
Oct 20, 2005 21:07
18 yrs ago
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German term
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Oberflur
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XYZ ist als Eigentümerin der folgenden, im Grundbuch des Amtsgerichts von xxx, Blatt 2700, vorgetragenen Grundstücke eingetragen:
- lfd. Nr. 3, Flurstück 500, **Oberflur**, Landwirtschaftsfläche, mit einer Fläche von 732 m²
- running No. 3, plot No. 500, ....
TIA!
- lfd. Nr. 3, Flurstück 500, **Oberflur**, Landwirtschaftsfläche, mit einer Fläche von 732 m²
- running No. 3, plot No. 500, ....
TIA!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +2 | * name of an area * |
alec_in_France
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| 3 +1 | ...some higher pasture land... |
Lancashireman
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| 3 | higher land |
Kieran McCann
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| 3 -1 | open fields |
Stephen Sadie
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| 2 | above ground |
Margaret Marks
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Proposed translations
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alec_in_France
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Works in: French to English, German to English
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* name of an area *
In building terms Oberflur literally means surface or exterior - the opposite of unterflur. However, I suspect from the layout of the Grundbuch entry that this is the name (or designation) of the area (Flur)in which this particular parcel is located. No translation is therefore required. Oberflur does seem to crop up occasionally as a street name, which tends to confirm this idea.
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Note added at 1 hr 23 mins (2005-10-20 22:31:41 GMT)
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In this context it could just mean e.g. the upper area of the village (or whatever) and would therefore not show up as a googleable place name
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Note added at 1 hr 23 mins (2005-10-20 22:31:41 GMT)
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In this context it could just mean e.g. the upper area of the village (or whatever) and would therefore not show up as a googleable place name
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Margaret Marks
: Probably right. A Google search for "flurstück * * landwirtschaftsfläche" seems to support you, although there are some variations in sequence.
30 mins
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| neutral |
Lancashireman
: Two contradictory answers posted at 1hr 12 and 1hr 23 plus a strange sort of agree (‘probably right’… ‘some variations in sequence’)
2 hrs
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Not contradictory, Andrew. The point is that this is probably the *name* (therefore not requiring translation) of a cadastral Flur, In my comment I was trying to point out the possible origin and offer an explanation for it not showing up in Google.
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Ken Cox
: That's my intuitive feeling, but maybe someone (the client perhaps?) can shed a bit of light on this.
11 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you!"
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6 mins
Stephen Sadie
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32
open fields
Langenscheidt
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
alec_in_France
: sounds plausible but I think unlikely in the context of a Grundbuch entry. We already have a description - Landwirtschaftsfläche
1 hr
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| neutral |
Lancashireman
: Don't translate...
3 days 20 hrs
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38 mins
...some higher pasture land...
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
alec_in_France
: doesn't match the usual layout of Grundbuch entries as we already have a description - Landwirtschaftsfläche, although the literal meaning may well be OK. Please see my reply to Andrew's comment on my posting.
40 mins
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What is the point you are trying to make here, Alec? In your own added note at 1 hr 23 mins you concede: “In this context it could just mean e.g. the upper area of the village (or whatever)”
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| agree |
Kieran McCann
11 hrs
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1 hr
above ground
Googling suggests above ground - an image search for Oberflur shows swimming pools by the firm Oberflur, but also Oberflur/Unterflur-Hydranten. In the Grundbuch the more usual term is oberirdisch. However, it may be a place name, as otherwise suggested. I need more evidence, hence query re Bundesland. And what is the purpose of the plot - do you know what kind of agriculture?
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Note added at 10 hrs 42 mins (2005-10-21 07:50:18 GMT)
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Die Ortsflur war, einer alten Flurordnung entsprechend, eingeteilt in die Weinbergsflur,
Wiesenflur und Ackerfeldflur. Zur Weinbergsflur gehörte die gesamte Weinbergsfläche
am Abhang des Hohenberges.
Zur Wiesenflur zählten die Mainwiesen, die Wiesen ober dem Ort, die Lager- oder Lakenwiesen,
die Seewiesen, Naßplatten und Auwiesen. Die Ackerflur zerfiel wegen der
eingeführten Dreifelderwirtschaft in die Oberflur, Mittelflur und Unterflur.
http://www.stadt-erlenbach.de/stadtportrait/Historie/Erlenba...
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Note added at 10 hrs 45 mins (2005-10-21 07:53:26 GMT)
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Flur means the fields owned by various farmers. I would not translate, then, but you could say 'upper/higher fields', I suppose.
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Note added at 10 hrs 42 mins (2005-10-21 07:50:18 GMT)
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Die Ortsflur war, einer alten Flurordnung entsprechend, eingeteilt in die Weinbergsflur,
Wiesenflur und Ackerfeldflur. Zur Weinbergsflur gehörte die gesamte Weinbergsfläche
am Abhang des Hohenberges.
Zur Wiesenflur zählten die Mainwiesen, die Wiesen ober dem Ort, die Lager- oder Lakenwiesen,
die Seewiesen, Naßplatten und Auwiesen. Die Ackerflur zerfiel wegen der
eingeführten Dreifelderwirtschaft in die Oberflur, Mittelflur und Unterflur.
http://www.stadt-erlenbach.de/stadtportrait/Historie/Erlenba...
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Note added at 10 hrs 45 mins (2005-10-21 07:53:26 GMT)
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Flur means the fields owned by various farmers. I would not translate, then, but you could say 'upper/higher fields', I suppose.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Lancashireman
: Somewhere 'above ground' in Bavaria, maybe with a swimming pool...
2 hrs
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12 hrs
Kieran McCann
United Kingdom
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Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English
Related KudoZ points
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20
higher land
I think the link below shows that this is not necessarily a general term for the upper part of a village, but can be a specific part of a landholding. Whether it always refers to higher surrounding fields, or can also be eg storage/parking/facilities areas, perhaps directly adjacent to a building, I'm still not sure.
Gemeinde: Kemmental
Art des Vorhabens: Einbau Oberflur auf gestellter Flüssiggas-lagertank
Parzelle Nr., Flurbezeichnung, Koordinaten: Nr. 4045, Güücht/Oberdorfstrasse 33, 8565 Hugelshofen 726.750/273.370
http://ww4.tg.ch/documents/Amtsblatt_3.pdf
Gemeinde: Kemmental
Art des Vorhabens: Einbau Oberflur auf gestellter Flüssiggas-lagertank
Parzelle Nr., Flurbezeichnung, Koordinaten: Nr. 4045, Güücht/Oberdorfstrasse 33, 8565 Hugelshofen 726.750/273.370
http://ww4.tg.ch/documents/Amtsblatt_3.pdf
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