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pitch

French translation: soumettre une offre

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
English term or phrase:enter a pitch
French translation:soumettre une offre
Entered by: dextof

07:53 Aug 8, 2008
English to French translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general)
English term or phrase: pitch
"The CEO, HR and finance directors often have different agendas and views, and we need to understand these well before entering the pitch....For major pitches, this may be a case of deciding not to participate - or deciding to leave the pitch process early..."

I am not sure how to translate "pitch" in French in this context as this word has so many meanings in English...
dextof
Australia
Local time: 12:21
soumettre une offre
Explanation:
A "pitch" is "un terrain", usually a sports-pitch.
To "pitch for something" is to make an offer or a proposal, in answer to a tender for example.

Here, the word "pitch" is used in the second context. Therefore, I would translate the whole sentence as follows:

"Le pdg et les directeurs des RH et des finances ont des agendas différents et des points de vue, et nous devons bien les comprendre avant de soumettre notre offre... Pour des offres importantes, cela peut aller jusqu'à la décision de ne pas participer - ou de se retirer avant l'heure..."

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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-08-08 10:50:17 GMT)
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des agendas différents et des points de vue différents
(manque le "différent" final)
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Christopher Newell
Ireland
Local time: 03:21
Grading comment
Merci bien à vous ainsi qu'à tous ceux qui ont répondu !
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +2soumettre une offre
Christopher Newell
4 +1avant d'entrer dans le vif du débat
Emérentienne
4stratégie (tactique) de vente
Ellen Kraus
3argumentaire de vente
Tony M
3avant de lancer le procédé
Sébastien Ricciardi
3 -1baratin commercial
kashew


Discussion entries: 7





  

Answers


31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
baratin commercial


Explanation:
Robert & Collins give: [trader] place, emplacement.
Another definition : La présentation verbale d'une histoire ou d'une idée dans le but d'obtenir du financement ou de la vendre.

kashew
France
Local time: 04:21
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 75

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: I don't think that's the meaning here, J. That is the slightly pejorative meaning, like 'sales spiel', whereas here Ibelieve it is 'make a pitch for sthg' = make a bid.
10 mins
  -> I know, your perception of getting into the market (with a bid) seems the idea.
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45 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
argumentaire de vente


Explanation:
I think the term you've found is probably the right one for the context as I understand it here (as long as 'vente' is appropriate; one might also 'make a pitch' (or bid) for internal budget allocations, for example...)

But I would steer clear of translating 'enter' literally; could you not say 'lancer notre / un argumentaire de vente...'?

Tony M
France
Local time: 04:21
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 246

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Martin Cassell: argumentaire, to me, is more the content of the "pitch", or presentation; whereas the various occurrences in the context given seem more focussed on the _process_ of preparing and submitting a bid (pitching) // (or indeed not pitching, as you say!)
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, Martin — yes, I think you're probably right. Tho' then again, the decision 'not to participate...' might suggest otherwise...
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
stratégie (tactique) de vente


Explanation:
without knowing the differing ideas of those responsible (directors etc.) we are well advised to leave the pitch alone. That´s how interpret the sentence

Ellen Kraus
Austria
Local time: 04:21
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 36
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
avant de lancer le procédé


Explanation:
Littéralement : avant de rentrer sur le terrain

Sébastien Ricciardi
France
Local time: 04:21
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 7

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: Even taken literally, 'pitch' does not have the meaning of 'terrain' here (as in football)
2 hrs
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32 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
avant d'entrer dans le vif du débat


Explanation:
Je sugguère débat ou discussions ou délibérations ici car il semble qu'on parle bien d'échanges de points de vue.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-08-08 09:56:54 GMT)
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Dans ce cas : avant de lancer la discussion/la consultation commerciale.

Emérentienne
France
Local time: 04:21
Works in field
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 229
Notes to answerer
Asker: Je ne suis pas sûr car il s'agit ici d'appels d'offres commerciales


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Stéphanie Soudais: J'ai compris pareil. Je dirais plutôt "le vif du sujet"
3 mins
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
soumettre une offre


Explanation:
A "pitch" is "un terrain", usually a sports-pitch.
To "pitch for something" is to make an offer or a proposal, in answer to a tender for example.

Here, the word "pitch" is used in the second context. Therefore, I would translate the whole sentence as follows:

"Le pdg et les directeurs des RH et des finances ont des agendas différents et des points de vue, et nous devons bien les comprendre avant de soumettre notre offre... Pour des offres importantes, cela peut aller jusqu'à la décision de ne pas participer - ou de se retirer avant l'heure..."

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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-08-08 10:50:17 GMT)
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des agendas différents et des points de vue différents
(manque le "différent" final)

Christopher Newell
Ireland
Local time: 03:21
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 23
Grading comment
Merci bien à vous ainsi qu'à tous ceux qui ont répondu !

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Martin Cassell: Harrap's Business: "∎ to pitch for sth: faire une soumission pour qch "
25 mins
agree  Sylvie Barnet
6 hrs
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