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Jun 25, 2009 22:49
14 yrs ago
French term

Echelles courbes

French to English Art/Literary Music
The full sentence is:

Parall�lement, S�bastien B�ranger obtient un DEA en esth�tique et sciences de l�art � l�universit� de Lille III sur "Le spectre et la r�alit� acoustique g�n�rateurs d��chelles courbes dans la musique du XXe si�cle".

Note that I did find an English translation of this on Sebastien's site, however the translation was not done by a native English speaker. This means that I'm not sure whether or not it actually is "curved scales"...and I can't find information as to what "curved scales" are in music to support this translation.

Thank you for your help.
Proposed translations (English)
3 Curved scales could be right
3 curve scales
2 warped scales

Discussion

Cervin Jun 26, 2009:
http://home.hetnet.nl/~frans.waltmans/composersberanger.htm - address from whence the above long quote taken.
Cervin Jun 26, 2009:
AS he apparently 'develops symmetries between mathematics, graphics and music perhaps that is why the term could be used. There are lots of refs to 'curved scales' in mathematical terminology on Google.
Cervin Jun 26, 2009:
Sébastien Béranger develops symmetries between mathematics, graphics and music, working on “space”, as the metaphorical representation of the different musical scales: scales of pitches, of durations, of thicknesses of sound. Acoustic spaces result from the association of different parameters, and this gives a kind of multidimensional sound sculpture. In the conceptualization of sound that passes through graphic or mathematical representation, we can hear in Béranger’s works a very clear relationship with spectral music, a pretty modal aspect and a formalization which is not denied… The spaces we talked about allow the composer to develop not only material but a space-plane, a grid that enables him to bring out the linearity. The melodic aspect is consequently always very much present in his music.
Cervin Jun 26, 2009:
Yes, it didn't mean anything to me as a musician either! But there are all sorts of strange terms used nowadays. The chapter is in a book called 'How music really works' (see my link above) and it actually refers to it as 'curvature of a major scale' so maybe that is slightly different.
Vicky James Jun 26, 2009:
The problem is... that "curved scales" means nothing to me as a musician :-D

Proposed translations

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Curved scales could be right

This might explain- it talks about 'curvature of the scale':
http://howmusicreallyworks.com/Pages_Chapter_4/4_3.html#4.3....
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for your links and explanations; they were quite helpful."
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curve scales

in 1822 proved that any complex periodic curve or in this case any tone is composed of a set of sinus curves, that contains the fundamental sinus frequency, plus another sinus curve with the double frequency, plus a sinus curve with a triple frequency, and so on. - http://home22.inet.tele.dk/hightower/scales.htm
http://www.google.pt/search?q=music - curve scales&hl=pt-PT&...
Peer comment(s):
neutral David Vaughn : Your explanation simply refers to overtones & has nothing directly to do with scales in this context
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warped scales

These are the songs of a tribe of modern minstrels, detailing the woe and glory of a people who had no hope but still strived. Perhaps it's a musical oral history, with a little bit of dramatic infusion and random leanings. With five tracks over the eleven minute mark, Chaiming is also like a night at the opera of the human mind, with longer movements making way for grand exploits to taint your dreams and synapses. "Apatrides" starts with low chants and "oohs" that build to a chorus of madmen chanting random thoughts about "river skins" and "shadow-bent reveries." Suddenly, the twisted sounds of trumpets and accordions announce the arrival of a brain dance, where psychoses and neuroses mingle and mate with abandon. It departs just as suddenly, as the electron thought bursts of "Mrs. Shakespeare Torso" arrive, which dissolve into sweet voices, more accordion, and **warped scales** on stringed instruments.

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Note added at 8 hrs (2009-06-26 07:14:29 GMT)
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http://www.brainwashed.com/brain/brainv06i32.html

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Note added at 8 hrs (2009-06-26 07:17:16 GMT)
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"I'm just starting to learn music theory, but I'm having a hard time understanding what kind of scale a lot of my melodies fit into so I can harmonize or whatever. Is there any easy way to figure out what scale I'm using when I have a melody?"

"Bumblefoot has a concept he calls 'warped scales', where you just alter any note you want, and then link every other note to form chords. If 2 notes are less than a minor third though, they'll be within the critical band and be dissonant (is dissonate a word?)."

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=163799
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