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مدني

English translation: civil

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Arabic term or phrase: مدني English translation: civil Entered by: Yvette Neisser Moreno

15:10 Aug 19, 2010

Arabic to English translations [PRO] Government / Politics / Palestinians in Israel
Arabic term or phrase: مدني This is a follow-up to the question I asked the other day about the word اهلي This text is about the role of civil society organizations of the Palestinian society inside Israel. I have been translating the phrase المجتمع اهلي as "civil society." However, the author is making a distinction between المجتمع الأهلي and المجتمع المدني that I don't quite understand, as in the following: الإنتقال من المجتمع الأهلي ٳلى المجتمع المدني لا تزال بعيدة Are we talking about a move from "civil" society to "civilized"? Any insight you can provide about the connotations would be very helpful.	Yvette Neisser Moreno KudoZ activity Questions: 101 (none open) (8 closed without grading) Answers: 160 United States Local time: 10:11
civil Explanation: Author is talking about the shift from a "nationalist" based society to a "civil" based society, I don't think he is talking about a civilized society as you are alluding. I hope this helps you more.	Selected response from: ashaaban Local time: 10:11
Grading comment I found your explanation most helpful for making the distinction, though I still wasn't sure about "nationalist" for أهلي. Thank you for your help! 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided
5 +1	a shift from community to civil society	Hasna Chakir
5	civil	Komeil Zamani Babgohari
4	urban	Mohamed A. Moustafa
4	civil	ashaaban

Discussion entries: 2

Mohamed A. Moustafa United States 17:00 Aug 23, 2010  Hi Yvette, Could you please provide more context in Arabic - a couple of sentences where the term is mentioned. Thanks Yvette Neisser Moreno United States ASKER still not sure... 16:56 Aug 23, 2010  I haven't awarded points here because I'm still not sure--based on your responses--which wording is most appropriate to my context. There's a bit difference between "community" and "nationalist society"... Can anyone provide further insight/explanation? I will be most appreciative. Automatic update in 00:

  

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a shift from community to civil society Explanation: /////	Hasna Chakir Morocco Local time: 15:11 Native speaker of: Arabic, French PRO pts in category: 50
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civil Explanation: adjective 1. Civil 2. Civic 3. Urban civilized: adjective 1. متحضر 2. حضاري 3. متمدن 4. مهذب 5. لطيف	Komeil Zamani Babgohari Iran Local time: 17:41 Native speaker of: Persian (Farsi)
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urban Explanation: Here the texts refers to the transfer from a rural community to an urban community. Please check here for the differences. http://www.alskilbieh.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewt... http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_is_a_rural_community_different...	Mohamed A. Moustafa United States Native speaker of: Arabic PRO pts in category: 19
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civil Explanation: Author is talking about the shift from a "nationalist" based society to a "civil" based society, I don't think he is talking about a civilized society as you are alluding. I hope this helps you more.	ashaaban Local time: 10:11 Native speaker of: Arabic, English PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment I found your explanation most helpful for making the distinction, though I still wasn't sure about "nationalist" for أهلي. Thank you for your help!
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