Jun 8, 2015 08:50
8 yrs ago
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polski term
szary i czarny wywiad
polski > angielski
Inne
Militaria/wojskowość
intelligence
w odniesieniu do metod działania wyróżnia trzy rodzaje wywiadu: biały, szary i czarny
Proposed translations
(angielski)
5 | grey and black intelligence | Andrzej Mierzejewski |
4 | semi-covert/covert intelligence | Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. |
References
Psychological Operations (United States) | geopiet |
Proposed translations
2 godz.
Selected
grey and black intelligence
Dosłownie - to są kalki z angielskiego.
https://books.google.pl/books?id=5UmZAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA217&lpg=P...
https://books.google.pl/books?id=5UmZAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA217&lpg=P...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Obie zaproponowane opcje uważam ze równie pomocne i zamierzam użyć obydwu w ramach rozwiązania hybrydowego. Ze względu na brak możliwości wybrania obu opcji zgodnie z rozwiązaniem zaproponowanym przez MJ (cf. dyskusja) zaznaczam tę odpowiedź. "
2 godz.
semi-covert/covert intelligence
Open-source intelligence (OSINT) is intelligence collected from publicly available sources.[1] In the intelligence community (IC), the term "open" refers to overt, publicly available sources (as opposed to covert or clandestine sources); it is not related to open-source software or public intelligence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_intelligence
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Note added at 13 hrs (2015-06-08 22:19:15 GMT)
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for open, one can substitute overt intelligence
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Covert human intelligence sources, or agents, are one of the most important means by which MI5 obtains intelligence
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...
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Intelligence Theory and Practice in Traditional China Ralph D. Sawyer ... history and development of both overt intelligence theory and covert practices in China.
and Intelligence Operations: Tradecraft Methods, Practices, Tactics, and ... perspective on sensitive covert and overt operations and sources.
https://www.crcpress.com/product/isbn/9781482230727
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In using the designation “IId” to designate a semi-covert political intelligence
https://books.google.com/books?id=DBg_154IjR0C&pg=PA221&lpg=...
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Semi-Covert Sources Semi-covert intelligence sources usually provide abundant information on countries with which one maintains commercial and diplomatic
https://books.google.com/books?id=mTXPkGuNtaAC&pg=PA48&lpg=P...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_intelligence
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Note added at 13 hrs (2015-06-08 22:19:15 GMT)
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for open, one can substitute overt intelligence
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Covert human intelligence sources, or agents, are one of the most important means by which MI5 obtains intelligence
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...
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Intelligence Theory and Practice in Traditional China Ralph D. Sawyer ... history and development of both overt intelligence theory and covert practices in China.
and Intelligence Operations: Tradecraft Methods, Practices, Tactics, and ... perspective on sensitive covert and overt operations and sources.
https://www.crcpress.com/product/isbn/9781482230727
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In using the designation “IId” to designate a semi-covert political intelligence
https://books.google.com/books?id=DBg_154IjR0C&pg=PA221&lpg=...
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Semi-Covert Sources Semi-covert intelligence sources usually provide abundant information on countries with which one maintains commercial and diplomatic
https://books.google.com/books?id=mTXPkGuNtaAC&pg=PA48&lpg=P...
Reference comments
2 godz.
Reference:
Psychological Operations (United States)
White PSYOP
Gray PSYOP
Black PSYOP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_Operations_(Unite...
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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-06-08 11:35:34 GMT)
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White, gray, and black do not refer to the propaganda's content, but the methods used to carry out the operations - https://goo.gl/tudAor
Gray PSYOP
Black PSYOP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_Operations_(Unite...
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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-06-08 11:35:34 GMT)
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White, gray, and black do not refer to the propaganda's content, but the methods used to carry out the operations - https://goo.gl/tudAor
Discussion
Actually, there is no way to do so. Since I already got some points from you and Andrzej has taken a very active part in the discussion, please award the points to him.
A poza tym można zapytać klienta o opinię, co zrobić.
Niepotrzebnie zastanawiasz nad tym aspektem. Autor użył kolorów, bo tak zdecydował. Ty tylko tłumaczysz opis metody przyjętej przez autora. Jeżeli kolory zastąpisz jakimkolwiek innym określnikiem, to przez nałożenie własnych poglądów zniekształcisz opis.
Dodawanie "so called" jest zupełnie zbędne, ponieważ informacja zawarta w zdaniu jest jednoznaczna.
Tekst dotyczy wywiadu, a nie związku inteligencji ludzi z kolorem skóry, więc IMO przez odbiorców zostanie zrozumiany zgodnie z intencją autora.
IMO w takiej sytuacji należy tłumaczyć dosłownie.
Polskie nazwisko, teksty po polsku? Czy tłumaczone na polski?
Zależnie od wyników poszukiwana albo bym dał dosłowne tłumaczenie kolorów, albo zgodnie z MacroJanusem.