bullion account

French translation: réserve de lingots

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English term or phrase:	bullion account
French translation:	réserve de lingots
Entered by:	B D Finch

10:03 Oct 15, 2018

English to French translations [PRO]
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English term or phrase: bullion account

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Contexte : système bancaire anglais, 19e siècle, crise de 1825.

"Their (the Bank of England) internal bullion account did not show a dramatic incoming transfer in December 1825."

Merci d'avance !

lucy_jazz KudoZ activity Questions: 399 (none open) (3 closed without grading) Answers: 3
Local time: 08:44

reserve de l'ingots

Explanation:
laosophie.over-blog.com/.../wwiii-jesus-christ-en-avance-sur-son-temps-se-promene-a...
... Banque d'Angleterre, est entourée d'un mur de neuf mètres de haut. Trois étages sous la surface, se trouve la plus grosse réserve de lingots ...

https://fr.sputniknews.com/economie/201804271036129937-or-re...
... l'ensemble des réserves; 1.236 tonnes à New York, soit 36,6% des réserves; 432 tonnes à la Banque d'Angleterre, soit 12,8% des réserves.

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Perhaps "réserve en or", because "bullion" includes gold that isn't in the form of ingots.

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Note added at 1 hr (2018-10-15 11:20:46 GMT)
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Apologies for the typo and missing accent in my header term. It should, of course read "réserve de lingots".

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B D Finch
France
Local time: 08:44

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Merci !
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Summary of answers provided

3 +3

reserve de l'ingots

B D Finch

4 +1

la comptabilité des réserves de lingots de la BoE même

Daryo

réserves métalliques

Marcombes (X)

Compte métaux précieux

Lidwine Adekambi

4 -1

compte en monnaie métallique

Francois Boye

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33 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

compte en monnaie métallique

Explanation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullion

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 02:44
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Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 964

Notes to answerer

Asker: Merci François :)

50 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

reserve de l'ingots

B D Finch
France
Local time: 08:44
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 27

Grading comment

Merci !

Notes to answerer

Asker: Merci BF Finch :)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

disagree

GILLES MEUNIER: l'ingots, ce n'est pas du français

19 mins

-> That was a typo, which I hadn't noticed. It should, of course, have been "lingots".

agree

ph-b (X): En quelques mois [1825], les réserves considérables de lingots d’or et d’argent que la Banque d’Angleterre avait accumulées seront dissipées (https://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/halshs-00387078/document... Nbreuses autres réfs. sur la crise de 1825.

1 hr

-> Thanks ph-b

agree

Germaine

4 hrs

-> Thanks Germaine

agree

Daryo: in fact the whole of "internal bullion account" is the term to translate // at that time banknotes were directly exchangeable for gold, the so-called "gold standard" - these times are gone, today's money is just paper, only has value if people believe it.

12 hrs

-> Indeed. Your comment got me scuttling to check that my fivers still bear the words "I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of five pounds". That used to mean five pounds in gold. What does it mean now? Should I try a demand to find out?

agree

Gleyse

1 day 9 mins

-> Merci Gleyse

13 hrs confidence:

réserves métalliques

Explanation:
Clément Juglar et la théorie des cycles en France au premier XXe siècle : quelques ... en Europe et dans l'Amérique du Nord durant le cours du XIXe siècle ». .... 2° des réserves métalliques; 3° du montant des billets en circulation; 4° des ... lieu au moment de la publication du Bullion Report en Angleterre, rappelant que les

Marcombes (X)
France
Local time: 08:44
Works in field
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 77

Notes to answerer

Asker: Merci Marcombes :)

15 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

(the Bank of England) internal bullion account la comptabilité des réserves de lingots de la BoE même

Explanation:

nor does their internal bullion account show a dramatic incoming transfer in
December 1825

il n'y a non plus aucune trace dans la comptabilité des réserves de lingots de la BoE même d'un transfert aussi dramatique ....

The problem with this account is that there is no evidence in the archives of either
the Bank of England or the Bank of France that there ever was any such bailout. There is
no mention of it in the Bank of England’s Treasury Minutes, or the minutes of the Court
of Directors, nor does their internal bullion account show a dramatic incoming transfer in
December 1825. Richards also claimed in his 1832 evidence that a box of half a million
forgotten £1 notes were discovered, left over from the period of the Restriction, and that
these were used to ease circulation.164 There is again no evidence to support this in the
Bank’s archives or balance sheets. It is difficult to compare precisely without calipers,
but a box of 500,000 of today’s $1 bills would be about 12.5 cubic feet, which is roughly
the size of most modern refrigerators. It is possible to imagine that the Bank of England
forgot about a refrigerator-sized crate of bills, but only with some interesting implications
for the limits of technical management in central banking in 1825.

https://cloudfront.escholarship.org/dist/prd/content/qt4dc6q...

http://digitalassets.lib.berkeley.edu/etd/ucb/text/Jackson_b...

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:44
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Serbian,

French
PRO pts in category: 302

Notes to answerer

Asker: Merci Daryo :)

20 hrs confidence:

Compte métaux précieux

Explanation:
Ce compte permet de faire garder en banque des métaux précieux comme l'or, le platinium etc.

Compte métaux précieux en le terme générique pour désigner ce type de compte.

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Que ce soit une banque commerciale ou une banque centrale qui garde ses métaux précieux dans sa réserve, un compte est toujours créer pour retracer les opérations effectuées...

Example sentence(s):

Notre compte Métaux précieux permet de conserver en toute sécurité de l'or, de l'argent, du platine ou du palladium.

https://www.cler.ch/fr/clientele-privee/.../compte-metaux-precieux/

Lidwine Adekambi
South Africa
Local time: 08:44
Native speaker of: French

Notes to answerer

Asker: Merci Lidwine :)

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