Relais

English translation: Data Protection Contact (Person(s)) - Network

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French term or phrase:Relais Informatique et Libertés
English translation:Data Protection Contact (Person(s)) - Network
Entered by: abe(L)solano

09:17 Dec 28, 2023
French to English translations [PRO]
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French term or phrase: Relais
Relais Informatique et Libertés (RIL)

Thank you in advance!
Anabella Valeria Weisman
United States
Local time: 23:41
contact person(s)
Explanation:
This figure is explained below and they act under de supervision/moderation of the CIL (Correspondant Informatique et Libertés) and/or the DPO (délégué à la protection des données), another stablished figure under the Law/CNIL Comission:

https://www.cnil.fr/sites/cnil/files/atoms/files/guide_prati...

"(Le DPO) en se présentant comme l’interlocuteur interne référent pour toute question en matière de protection des données, et si nécessaire au moyen de personnes relais."

https://www.unafo.org/app/uploads/2019/10/Guide_pratique_Pri...

IDENTIFIER SES FUTURS RELAIS INTERNES
Envisager l’opportunité (selon la taille de l’entreprise) de mettre en place un réseau de personnes « relais » identifiées comme les interlocuteurs privilégiés du CIL.

Identifier une personne relais « Informatique et Libertés » (RIL) pour chaque direction
métier ou filiales parmi les collaborateurs ayant une bonne connaissance de la loi Informatique
et Libertés, des pratiques métiers et/ou des systèmes d’information (SI) utilisés par sa direction



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And examples of "contact person" here (in relation to UK/EU's GDPR):
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/STUD/2018/6049...
https://www.kelio.com/services/gdpr.html
https://www.man.eu/uk/en/general/data-protection-other-partn...
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abe(L)solano
France
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Summary of answers provided
5 +4contact person(s)
abe(L)solano
4 +1data protection coordinator
philgoddard
4(user) loop/s
Adrian MM.
4correspondent
Bourth
4data protection desk (staff)
SafeTex
5 -2Data Protection Relays
Johannes Gleim
3information point(s)
AllegroTrans
Summary of reference entries provided
Search and research first
AllegroTrans

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
contact person(s)


Explanation:
This figure is explained below and they act under de supervision/moderation of the CIL (Correspondant Informatique et Libertés) and/or the DPO (délégué à la protection des données), another stablished figure under the Law/CNIL Comission:

https://www.cnil.fr/sites/cnil/files/atoms/files/guide_prati...

"(Le DPO) en se présentant comme l’interlocuteur interne référent pour toute question en matière de protection des données, et si nécessaire au moyen de personnes relais."

https://www.unafo.org/app/uploads/2019/10/Guide_pratique_Pri...

IDENTIFIER SES FUTURS RELAIS INTERNES
Envisager l’opportunité (selon la taille de l’entreprise) de mettre en place un réseau de personnes « relais » identifiées comme les interlocuteurs privilégiés du CIL.

Identifier une personne relais « Informatique et Libertés » (RIL) pour chaque direction
métier ou filiales parmi les collaborateurs ayant une bonne connaissance de la loi Informatique
et Libertés, des pratiques métiers et/ou des systèmes d’information (SI) utilisés par sa direction



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Note added at 1 hr (2023-12-28 10:57:07 GMT)
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And examples of "contact person" here (in relation to UK/EU's GDPR):
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/STUD/2018/6049...
https://www.kelio.com/services/gdpr.html
https://www.man.eu/uk/en/general/data-protection-other-partn...

abe(L)solano
France
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
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Thank you!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: The word has a wider meaning than "persons" - more like "contact points" // some documents mention persons, others don't, and mention departments or specific places/addresses
1 hr
  -> pffff please read the French documents first. It is clearly stated "PERSONS" not "POINTS" or "GUICHETS" cheers/Well, designated persons as 'relais' work in departments/offices which have an address, isn't it??? You are confusing things

agree  Schtroumpf: Il s'agit bien de personnes àmha. Bien sûr on parle de leur "casquettes", mais ils restent des interlocuteurs sur pattes.
3 hrs
  -> Merci beaucoup, Schtroumpf !! Et Bonne Année 2024 !!

neutral  philgoddard: It is indeed a contact person, but that's not the official terminology. The first few paragraphs of your final reference correctly describe this person as a data protection coordinator, reporting to the data protection officer.
3 hrs
  -> No Phil, I think you are confusing DPD/DPO with "Relais": his/her collaborators, see "Structurer et animer son réseau" section here: https://www.cnil.fr/fr/dpo-par-ou-commencer

agree  Corinne Jeannet: qq'n qui collabore avec le DPO ou prend en charge ses fonctions quand le DPO n'est pas dispo: https://www.ageris-consulting.com/formations/assurer-la-fonc...
3 hrs
  -> Merci !

agree  Charlie Bavington: I have used Data Protection Contact in the past (leaving person implied) and AFAIK there isn't an official universally agreed Eng term for the people that liaise with the DPO, which is what the relais mainly does, I think.
4 hrs
  -> Thank you, Charlie !!

agree  Kim Metzger
5 hrs
  -> Thank you! and happy NY24
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
Relais Informatique et Libertés
Data Protection Relays


Explanation:
The proper term is "Relais Informatique et Libertés" and not "Relais". So we have to look for the English equivalent expression.

Pour l’aider dans ses fonctions, la Cnil préconise de choisir des relais internes, appelés « relais informatique et libertés » dans les différents services.
https://www.lagazettedescommunes.com/549543/donnees-personne...

CNIL Commission Nationale Informatique & Libertés
:
Un organisme ne peut désigner qu’une seule personne en tant que délégué à la protection des données. Celui-ci peut cependant être épaulé par une équipe, travailler en collaboration avec les autres métiers de l’organisme ou disposer d’un réseau de « relais Informatique et Libertés » à même de l’aider à sensibiliser aux questions de protection des données ou de lui faire remonter les questions, les projets ou les demandes d’exercice de droit.
https://www.cnil.fr/sites/cnil/files/atoms/files/guide_prati...

La CNIL vérifie que la loi est respectée en contrôlant les traitements informatiques. Elle peut de sa propre initiative se rendre dans tout local professionnel et vérifier sur place et sur pièce les fichiers.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_nationale_de_l'info...

The Commission nationale de l'informatique et des libertés (CNIL, French pronunciation: [knil]; English: National Commission on Informatics and Liberty) is an independent French administrative regulatory body whose mission is to ensure that data privacy law is applied to the collection, storage, and use of personal data. Its existence was established by the French loi n° 78-17 on Information Technology, Data Files and Civil Liberty of 6 January 1978, and it is the national data protection authority for France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_nationale_de_l'info...

The Data Protection Officer (DPO) is a critical player in the GDPR compliance of your company. Choosing the right profile is vital for the company to become privacy-friendly. Data protection must become a priority for the company and, even more so, a value creation factor.
:
Deploy a network of Data Protection Relays that is, well-integrated business profiles in their departments that will efficiently coordinate the substantial compliance of treatments.
https://useaxeptio.com/consumer-data-management/data-protect...

The Safran Personal Data protection organization is based on the appointment of a Group Personal Data Protection Officer (“Group DPO”) and Personal Data Protection Officers for each tier-1 company (“Company DPO”), assisted if necessary by personal data protection relays within the company sites, Subsidiaries within or outside the EU as well as country relays
https://www.safran-group.com/sites/default/files/2021-07/202...

Johannes Gleim
Local time: 08:41
Native speaker of: German

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: "Relays" is too literal and doesn't convey the intended meaning (at least not in British English)
1 hr
  -> But there are many hits.

disagree  philgoddard: Only two of your references mention 'relays', and they're both translations.
3 hrs
  -> What is wrong with translations? We are looking for translations.

disagree  Kawthar Busari: I feel the use of the word "Relay" is a bit too literal in this context
16 hrs
  -> This is no proper argument.

neutral  SafeTex: I too don't think that we would use "relay" in English but this is one of the rare suggestions that actually understands what "relais" means in French. It should have been credited for that at least.
1 day 19 hrs
  -> In Englisch the expression 'to relay any information' is quite common.
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relais
(user) loop/s


Explanation:
relay : dictionary definition. I've used 'loop' before now with impunity fr this bugbear that seems hard to nail out of electrical and elctronic context.

Relais Informatique et Libertés (RIL) : Data-Processing and Freedoms User Loop - preferably not 'Liberties' as, in BrE, taking 'liberties' means something else in the sense of audacity, whilst 'loopy' means crackpot : no further comment needed at the risk of getting censored.

Obiter =? BTW, ytaying and keeping in the loop have familiar echoes of song titles.


Example sentence(s):
  • Keep me in the loop is a commonly used idiomatic expression that means “to keep someone informed or updated on recent developments regarding a specific subject or situation.”
  • UserLoop Data Processing Agreement (DPA) · 1. Subject matter, term, personal data processed, and categories of data subjects.

    Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/history/3165436-...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 359
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correspondent


Explanation:
These relais are persons at lower levels (branches, departments, etc) within an organization who 'relay' information (correspond) between the people they work with and the person they report to, who may go under a title such as délégué à la protection des données personnelles. If we assume this person is given the title 'Personal Data Protection Officer' (which I will leave you to Google), the relais could be 'Personal Data Protection Correspondents'.

In the following report of Data Protection laws in Niger, we find:

"DATA PROTECTION OFFICERS
There is no provision in the law relating to the appointment of a data protection officer. However, Article 12 of the Law pertains to the designation of the personal data protection correspondent, which is defined in Article 1 as the person designated by the company carrying out the processing of personal data, to whom data subjects or interested persons may address any queries."
https://www.dlapiperdataprotection.com/system/modules/za.co....

France used to use the term correspondant informatique et libertés, before changing the title to délégué à la protection des données, so I think we might be facing a terminolo-temporal or chrono-terminological quandry in which the correspondant became a délégué with, at lower levels, relais. Whether there were relais before the change, I know not.

"Le correspondant Informatique et Libertés (CIL) était chargé de veiller, avant l'entrée en application du règlement général sur la protection des données (RGPD) le 25 mai 2018, au respect de la loi Informatique et Libertés au sein de l'entreprise, du groupe, de l'association ou de l'administration qui l'avait désigné.
Cette désignation était facultative.
La CNIL publie la liste des organismes privés et publics qui avaient souhaité s'engager dans une démarche de conformité en désignant un CIL avant la mise en place, par le RGPD, du délégué à la protection des données (DPO).
https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/correspondants-informat...

Which means that while translating relais as 'correspondent' might once have been problematical, it is no longer.

https://datalegaldrive.com/dpo/definition-missions/
https://en.datalegaldrive.com/dpo-definition-and-responsibil...



Bourth
France
Local time: 08:41
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 42

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  abe(L)solano: Indeed, a person, but this term was used before RGPD came in place in 2018, and for the equivalent of DPO, not, for tthe "relais" function/role under RGPD (JOUE L127 2 du 23/05/2018)
22 mins
  -> My point exactly; the title 'correspondent', redefined, is now open.

neutral  Schtroumpf: La description me paraît précise et bonne ; toutefois, le risque de confusion concernant ses attributions ne vaut pas la peine d'être pris. Le lecteur n'est pas censé savoir depuis quand la termino a changé en France...
1 day 21 hrs
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information point(s)


Explanation:
These appear to be places to obtain information (on data protection in the context)
The literal "relay" doesn't really make sense in English

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OR: contact points

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
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data protection coordinator


Explanation:
The person in charge of data protection within an organisation is called the data protection officer. Coordinators can also be appointed within divisions or departments.

This example relates to local authorities:
Il faudra, d’ici le 25 mai, nommer un délégué à la protection des données personnelles (DPD). Celui-ci aura différentes missions. D’une manière générale, c’est lui qui pilotera la mise en conformité de la collectivité à la nouvelle réglementation, puis qui contrôlera l’application de celle-ci dans le temps.

Pour l’aider dans ses fonctions, la Cnil préconise de choisir des relais internes, appelés « relais informatique et libertés » dans les différents services.
http://www.lagazettedescommunes.com/549543/donnees-personnel...

And this relates to the EU itself:
Data protection coordinator
In addition to the data protection officer foreseen by Regulation (EU) 2018/1725, some EU institutions have appointed a data protection coordinator in order to coordinate all data protection aspects in the relevant DGs, Departments or Units.
http://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/data-protection/glossa...







philgoddard
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 282

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  abe(L)solano: I think you gave the Agree to Allegro's "Ref" bcs you're confusing the DPO/DPD figure with the "relais" network of collaborators/appointees/In the French documents they could have used "coordinateurs" but they didn't, since they don't act as coordinators.
35 mins
  -> No, you haven't read my explanation. The DPO is the person in charge, and may have coordinators reporting to them.

agree  Annette Fehr: I think the critical point is that the term shouldn't only be "relais" but concerns "data protection," which is a legal obligation and a very hot talking-point in France at the moment because it complicates a lot of everyday procedures..
1 hr
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data protection desk (staff)


Explanation:
"Relais" is NOT a person BUT a "point" as in "relais de colis" (parcel pick up point) but there are references where it is used to imply a person.
"Relais" is light years away from DPO (data protection officer) in the minds of native French speakers.

My solution is to use the word "desk", where it is implied that the desk is manned. When used specifically to mean "person" in any part of the text, it would have to be "data protection desk staff" or something like that.


SafeTex
France
Local time: 08:41
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans: You have picked up on my point that a "relai" is a location, not a person. The fact that "personne relai" is a thing in French doesn't justify saying that "relai" is automatically a human being, but nearly everyone here seems to have fallen into that trap
4 hrs
  -> Thanks: Yes, I saw your remark and should have made a reference to it but did not for some reason unknown to me.

disagree  Schtroumpf: See DB for details. And... happy new year!
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Reference comments


3 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Search and research first

Reference information:
C’est la priorité. Il faudra, d’ici le 25 mai, nommer un délégué à la protection des données personnelles (DPD). Celui-ci aura différentes missions. D’une manière générale, c’est lui qui pilotera la mise en conformité de la collectivité à la nouvelle réglementation, puis qui contrôlera l’application de celle-ci dans le temps. Il devra notamment informer et conseiller, de façon indépendante, le « responsable de traitement », chef de l’exécutif de la collectivité. De même, la sensibilisation, voire la formation, de l’ensemble des agents de sa collectivité est l’une de ses principales tâches (lire ci-dessous). D’ailleurs, dès sa nomination, il lui est recommandé de faire savoir à l’ensemble des agents sa désignation. Pour l’aider dans ses fonctions, la Cnil préconise de choisir des relais internes, appelés « relais informatique et libertés » dans les différents services.
Introduction
Le présent guide s'adresse à toute personne qui envisage ou commence à assurer la
fonction de Correspondant Informatique et Libertés (CIL) dans un établissement
d'enseignement supérieur et de recherche.
Ce document a été pensé en tant que trame de réflexion, afin de donner au nouveau CIL
des arguments pour sensibiliser le Responsable des Traitements aux conditions nécessaires
pour le bon accomplissement de sa mission.
Il vient en complément de documents existants, notamment le « Guide du correspondant
Informatique et Libertés001 » d'une part, et le « Guide Informatique et Libertés pour
l'enseignement supérieur et la recherche002 » d'autre part.
Les chapitres 1 à 2 s'adressent essentiellement aux personnes qui envisagent de devenir
CIL. L'objectif est d'identifier toutes les questions à se poser, les aides existantes et les
moyens mis à disposition (ou à négocier) pour que la prise de fonction s'effectue de
manière optimale.
Les personnes qui commencent à exercer la fonction de CIL sont invitées à lire les chapitres
2 à 4 : par où commencer ? Que faut-il mettre en place pour travailler efficacement ? De
quelles aides disposer ? Les sujets abordés couvrent notamment la constitution du registre,
les interlocuteurs à rencontrer, la mise en place de relais, les procédures à mettre en
œuvre.

Mettre en place des circuits d'information et désigner des relais dans les
services (Direction des enseignements et de la vie étudiante - Direction des
Ressources Humaines – Direction des Relations Internationales -
Responsable administratif des composantes/services – Observatoire des
étudiants – Webmestre – Correspondant C2i – Comité stratégique Système
d'Information - ...)

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1355

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  abe(L)solano: CIL (or DPO) is the person acting above the "relais". You didn't cite the ref for your text (why?). Here is mentioned "personnes relais" as my CNIL ref: https://unitae-rgpd.fr/nos-ateliers-rgpd/; another: https://datalegaldrive.com/rgpd-pourquoi-avoir-re
32 mins
agree  philgoddard
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