buiten de wolken

English translation: outside the (revision) clouds

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Dutch term or phrase:	buiten de wolken
English translation:	outside the (revision) clouds
Entered by:	Mary McCusker

22:31 Jul 31, 2009

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Dutch term or phrase: buiten de wolken

Het is wel zo dat in §3.2. zal worden aangetoond dat een deel van xxx
een “as built” status dient te hebben, meer bepaald het deel buiten de wolken.
Text concerns a dispute regarding specifications related to a construction project (oil pipe line). I can't imagine that 'buiten de wolken' is meant literally here, but I have not come across this expression. TIA for any clues

Mary McCusker KudoZ activity Questions: 235 (2 open) (1 without valid answers) (11 closed without grading) Answers: 229
Local time: 21:20

outside the (revision) clouds

Explanation:
As daft as it may sound, a literal translation will work here.

"Clouds" refers to the cloud-like shapes on engineering drawings that indicate where changes or revisions have been made. So, the "deel buiten de wolken" is the part of the drawing outside the clouds, where no revisions have been made.

See:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="revision clouds"
http://books.google.com/books?id=N97zPAvogxoC&pg=PA807&dq=en...

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Neil Cross
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:20

Grading comment

Thank you, Neil, you are absolutely correct. As I worked through the text, it became clear that they were indeed referring to actual clouds and your confirmation is welcome.
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Summary of answers provided

outside the (revision) clouds

Neil Cross

in the clear

Verginia Ophof

above suspicion

lexispro

Answers

7 hrs confidence:

above suspicion

Explanation:
At a guess, "buiten de wolken" is probably used metaphorically, i.e. something is not "under a cloud" (under suspicion), i.e. is not included in the argument. It may be possible to translate the implied meaning of the metaphor (e.g. something may be acceptable because it has no defect): "... in particular the section that is not defective / is acceptable / is unproblematic."

lexispro
South Africa
Local time: 03:20
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Afrikaans

2 days 3 hrs confidence:

outside the (revision) clouds

Neil Cross
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:20
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Thank you, Neil, you are absolutely correct. As I worked through the text, it became clear that they were indeed referring to actual clouds and your confirmation is welcome.

5 days confidence:

in the clear

Explanation:
....

Verginia Ophof
Belize
Local time: 19:20
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 44

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