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‘groupthink’ conflicten worden kost wat kost uit de weg gegaan

English translation: ... are/must/should/shall (be) avoided /sidestepped at any cost.

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Dutch term or phrase:‘groupthink’ conflicten worden kost wat kost uit de weg gegaan
English translation:... are/must/should/shall (be) avoided /sidestepped at any cost.
Entered by: jarry (X)

08:21 Jul 12, 2006
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
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Dutch term or phrase: ‘groupthink’ conflicten worden kost wat kost uit de weg gegaan
This is taken from an outline on how to reorganise overall approach to certain aspects within a company. Various transition phases are discussed, with this sentence taken from the Solution Phase:

Gevaar: 'groupthink’ conflicten worden kost wat kost uit de weg gegaan

I can't think of a similar way to convey the same message in English. Any good ideas?

TIA
Johan Venter
Czech Republic
Local time: 20:59
... are avoided /sidestepped at all cost.
Explanation:
...

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Note added at 14 mins (2006-07-12 08:36:41 GMT)
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or: at all costs/ at any cost / whatever it takes
Selected response from:

jarry (X)
South Africa
Local time: 20:59
Grading comment
I ended up using 'groupthink must be avoided at any cost'. Thank you all for the input provided.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +2groupthink conflicts are avoided at any cost
DutchConnection
4 +2... are avoided /sidestepped at all cost.
jarry (X)
3 +1Every effort has to be made to avoid groupthink conflicts.
writeaway


Discussion entries: 5





  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
... are avoided /sidestepped at all cost.


Explanation:
...

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Note added at 14 mins (2006-07-12 08:36:41 GMT)
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or: at all costs/ at any cost / whatever it takes

jarry (X)
South Africa
Local time: 20:59
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
I ended up using 'groupthink must be avoided at any cost'. Thank you all for the input provided.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Dave Calderhead: should be avoided at any cost
25 mins
  -> Thanks Dave. The Dutch says "worden", not "moeten" or "zouden moeten worden". So 'should be' is not really meant here. In my view, the Dutch wording suggests the existence of a consistent policy.
agree  Tina Vonhof (X): and with your comment re 'should'.
7 hrs
  -> Thanks Tina
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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
groupthink conflicts are avoided at any cost


Explanation:
I don't think you need to keep groupthink in quotes. The word has powerful negative overtones through its first use in connection with Orwell's 1984, in its meaning and (to my mind) its hideous form. I'm posting this separate answer to highlight 'any cost'.


    Reference: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/06/letters/page2.html
DutchConnection
Local time: 19:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in DutchDutch

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  jarry (X): It is one of my suggestion, too, so how can I not agree :-). What is more, you are using the correct tense in this instance!
2 hrs
  -> Very generous of you - I did want 'any' to stand out or I wouldn't have been so petty!
neutral  Adam Smith: At the risk of sounding pedantic, surely these conflicts "are to be" avoided?/What I think I mean is if you don't add something like "to be / should be", it begs the question: by what? That may be clear in the text-we don't know. Sorry to be obtuse!! :-)
5 hrs
  -> Adam, you've lost me (feeling thick) :-/ ...Can you clarify?
agree  Mario Hendriks
9 hrs
neutral  writeaway: agree with Adam. and ultimately with Johan as well.
1 day 3 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Every effort has to be made to avoid groupthink conflicts.


Explanation:
not as literal but don't think meaning changes. depends what you are looking for.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-07-12 10:22:02 GMT)
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every effort 'shall be made" may be better here.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-07-12 11:50:18 GMT)
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shall be, is to be, will be. imho present tense sounds unnatural in English. if it's a statement of a policy to follow and not just a description of what they are now doing. we do this, we do that.

writeaway
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  jarry (X): Should be 'is' made. The solution phase seems to have been drafted to serve as future policy to be applied on a consistent basis. The fact remains that "worden" as used here does NOT translate as 'should' or 'is to be', etc.
30 mins
  -> so now I have neutral because?
agree  Adam Smith: To be or not to be: Surely these problems "are" to be avoided (as you say)? :-)
4 hrs
  -> 2 fine neutrals for being correct. go figure. trop is te veel.
neutral  DutchConnection: It is a danger, therefore present tense perfectly possible: "Gevaar: 'groupthink' conflicten..." i.e. to avoid conflict there's no groupthink at all.
11 hrs
  -> don't understand your reasoning. how does that tie in. doesn't 'gevaar' mean warning in the context?
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