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English term or phrase:
In our global war on AIDS, the international community is on the verge of snatch
Russian translation:
“вырвать поражение из когтей победы“
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Aug 29, 2010 19:52
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In our global war on AIDS, the international community is on the verge of snatch
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Just wondering if anybody came across a translation of this sentence. Here is the whole abstract:
Donors have been shifting their focus from AIDS to other diseases, where there is a sense that more lives can be saved more cheaply. At a time when we should be scaling up to meet the AIDS challenge, in other words, we are dialing back. In our global war on AIDS, the international community is on the verge of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.”
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, 14 June 2010
Donors have been shifting their focus from AIDS to other diseases, where there is a sense that more lives can be saved more cheaply. At a time when we should be scaling up to meet the AIDS challenge, in other words, we are dialing back. In our global war on AIDS, the international community is on the verge of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.”
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, 14 June 2010
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“вырвать поражение из когтей победы“
саркастически вывернутое наизнанку клише “вырвать победу из когтей поражения“
если хотите - гугляните: полнО
если хотите - гугляните: полнО
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... находится на краю своего поражения, почти приблизившись к победе
В глобальной борьбе со СПИДом международное общество терпит крах ( находится на краю своего поражения), почти приблизившись к победе.
( Т.е. он (Секретарь) с болью критикует ослабление внимания к проблеме СПИДа)
Есть русское клиш-антоним к данному выражению:"Выхватить победу из лап поражения".
"snatch defeat from the jaws of victory":
To lose when winning is an absolutely sure thing.
See John Kerry's bid for the U.S. Presidency in 2004.
In 2004, John Kerry became the ultimate example of how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.(Urban Dictionary)
( Т.е. он (Секретарь) с болью критикует ослабление внимания к проблеме СПИДа)
Есть русское клиш-антоним к данному выражению:"Выхватить победу из лап поражения".
"snatch defeat from the jaws of victory":
To lose when winning is an absolutely sure thing.
See John Kerry's bid for the U.S. Presidency in 2004.
In 2004, John Kerry became the ultimate example of how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.(Urban Dictionary)
Example sentence:
http://parkedplaces.com/jaycleveland/2010/08/23/stop-snatching-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victory-workplace-positive-step-for-monday-august-23-2010/
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Alexandra Taggart
: "почти уклоняется от поражения тогда, когда перевес на стороне победы" -где-то такю
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Eric Candle
: тяжеловесно ("почти" приблизившись; "своего" поражения)
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да вариаций может быть много, главное- смысл верный. А редактирование - за аскером,что ближе к его стилю.
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почти выиграли решающую битву / решающий бросок в борьбе со СПИДом
snatch victory from the jaws of defeat
CLICHE - to win at the last moment. At the last moment, the team snatched victory from the jaws of defeat with a last-second full-court basket.
Речь идет о том, что благотворительные организации и другие доноры переключились на субсидирование изысканий по другим болезням потому как считают, что больше жизней можно спасти с наименьшими финансовыми потерями. В то время как на самом деле надо сосредточиться на СПИДе, иначе "мы отыгрываем "назад". Потому что, "В то время, как в глобальной войне против СПИДа международное сообщество уже близко к полной и решающей победе / выиграло решающую битву со СПИДом. (Типа доноры отвернулись хотя победа уже близка. ) и это не правильно. (Товарищ ратует за привлечение доноров.)
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No, I am actually right and you are wrong. I verified this with my friend and he confirmed that "on the verge of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" is exactly how I interpret it, i.e. you back off when you are almost there ..... It's your job to find the proper Russian equivalent. I gave you an idea.
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basically, what it is is when you are so close to the victory all of a sudden you back off - this is what it is and it's absolutely fit in the context
CLICHE - to win at the last moment. At the last moment, the team snatched victory from the jaws of defeat with a last-second full-court basket.
Речь идет о том, что благотворительные организации и другие доноры переключились на субсидирование изысканий по другим болезням потому как считают, что больше жизней можно спасти с наименьшими финансовыми потерями. В то время как на самом деле надо сосредточиться на СПИДе, иначе "мы отыгрываем "назад". Потому что, "В то время, как в глобальной войне против СПИДа международное сообщество уже близко к полной и решающей победе / выиграло решающую битву со СПИДом. (Типа доноры отвернулись хотя победа уже близка. ) и это не правильно. (Товарищ ратует за привлечение доноров.)
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http://www.dissexpress.co.uk/sport/diss_snatch_victory_from_...
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No, I am actually right and you are wrong. I verified this with my friend and he confirmed that "on the verge of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" is exactly how I interpret it, i.e. you back off when you are almost there ..... It's your job to find the proper Russian equivalent. I gave you an idea.
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basically, what it is is when you are so close to the victory all of a sudden you back off - this is what it is and it's absolutely fit in the context
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Alexandra Taggart
: "to snatch" - (fig) стырить, слямзить, украсть.The author didn't make mistake when he swapped "defeat" and "victory" in the normal saying.
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daliya
: Смысл совсем обратный перевденному Вами;борьбе со СПИДом чтой-то не видно конца...
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Albina R
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Anna Rioland
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находится на грани поражения, хотя победа была так близка
то есть победа была близка, но в последний момент стало не хватать финансирования
Discussion
"Let's begin with a definition of the phrase “snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.” The popular sports metaphor basically translates to the ability to find a way to lose when winning is an absolutely sure thing. It sound like a silly thing to say, but the reason it is such a popular theme in sports is because teams that seem to be on the verge of winning often find themselves not winning because of the strangest reasons."
Do you, Olga, personally believe that the battle against AIDS is nearly over, when virus continues to widely spread all over the world?
Sorry but, rely on more reliable sources like dictionaries more than your friends.