aspect pelucheux de la peau

English translation: uneven / lumpy / fibrous *see context*

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French term or phrase:aspect pelucheux de la peau
English translation:uneven / lumpy / fibrous *see context*
Entered by: Julie Barber

10:26 Jun 5, 2006
French to English translations [PRO]
Cosmetics, Beauty
French term or phrase: aspect pelucheux de la peau
'Caractère pelucheux (au toucher/visuel)' is one of the descriptors used in a consumer test of moisturisers.

Après application du fond de teint, le caractère pelucheux visuel semble en moyenne plus perçu avec la XXX. Seule 1 participante identifie un aspect pelucheux de la peau après application du fond de teint.
Au toucher, le caractère pelucheux est faible pour les 2 produits. Une sensation légèrement irrégulière semble perçue par 6 participantes.

The only translation I can find is 'fluffy', which obviously doesn't fit. I would be very grateful for any other ideas!
Stephanie Rothwell (X)
Local time: 20:51
uneven / lumpy
Explanation:
Or something along those lines...caked ?? crusty!?

This link below refers to leather! but hey, the concept is the same, it really doesn't appear to me that we are talking silky here:

La croute de cuir est la partie intérieur (côté chair) de la peau refendue. Lorsque les peaux sont épaisses, il est possible de les trancher 1 ou 2 fois dans le sens de l'épaisseur. La partie extérieure plus régulière est la partie noble, la croûte a donc un aspect pelucheux.
http://www.chaussurespaul.com/glossaire_peausseries.php3

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my logic here is that it comes in the same sentence as uneven texture:
Au toucher, le caractère pelucheux est faible pour les 2 produits. Une sensation légèrement ** irrégulière **semble perçue par 6 participantes.

As it makes me think teddybear, I too think fluffy, but I don't think that it's a good thing here - makeup is supposed to be matt & smooth....


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response to asker: I'm still trying to figure out good or bad actually as I'm having doubts!

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to asker: OK! I was starting to have lots of doubts ! proves it might be worth taking the risk sometimes of suggesting a different answer....as I was part way to thinking, what have I written ?!

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maybe grainy even then if it's like a gommage.....which is essentially a mixture with bits, grains in to smooth the skin...

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I'm not sure why I've got 2 disagrees below when clearly the cream is producing an uneven effect...yet based on those comments, how about a fibrous texture? we can't use fluffy as it's frequently used in a positive way for creams - meaning light and fluffy.
Selected response from:

Julie Barber
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:51
Grading comment
Thanks to all for the extensive discussion of this term -- your time is much appreciated. I chose this answer based on the client's comments.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +3downy
Angela Dickson (X)
3a filmy aspect of the skin
nnaemeka Odimegwu
1 +1peachy, velvety
Helen Genevier
2 -1uneven / lumpy
Julie Barber


Discussion entries: 7





  

Answers


8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
downy


Explanation:
well, it's better than 'fluffy', anyway... Google shows that it is often used of apricots and peaches, so why not human skin?

Angela Dickson (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:51
Native speaker of: English
Notes to answerer
Asker: Yes, that's an idea. I'm not absolutely sure whether 'pelucheux' is good or bad, though, and I think 'downy' would be good.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Cetacea
7 mins

agree  Assimina Vavoula
14 mins

agree  Debbie Tacium Ladry: I don't think it's supposed to come off as good or bad - it just is. Skin could feel worse than 'downy' ;-)
15 hrs
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5 peer agreement (net): +1
peachy, velvety


Explanation:
Just a guess - I wonder if they are getting at the idea of a texture like peach skin. It's not a great term I know, but maybe it'll kick off some brainstorming :-)

Helen Genevier
France
Local time: 21:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thing is, I have 'velvety' for 'fondant' (describing the cream).


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ingeborg Gowans (X): velvety would be my idea,too; normally one refers to a lovely skin as "peaches and cream" skin
2 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): -1
uneven / lumpy


Explanation:
Or something along those lines...caked ?? crusty!?

This link below refers to leather! but hey, the concept is the same, it really doesn't appear to me that we are talking silky here:

La croute de cuir est la partie intérieur (côté chair) de la peau refendue. Lorsque les peaux sont épaisses, il est possible de les trancher 1 ou 2 fois dans le sens de l'épaisseur. La partie extérieure plus régulière est la partie noble, la croûte a donc un aspect pelucheux.
http://www.chaussurespaul.com/glossaire_peausseries.php3

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my logic here is that it comes in the same sentence as uneven texture:
Au toucher, le caractère pelucheux est faible pour les 2 produits. Une sensation légèrement ** irrégulière **semble perçue par 6 participantes.

As it makes me think teddybear, I too think fluffy, but I don't think that it's a good thing here - makeup is supposed to be matt & smooth....


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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-06-05 13:52:07 GMT)
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response to asker: I'm still trying to figure out good or bad actually as I'm having doubts!

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Note added at 4 hrs (2006-06-05 14:45:37 GMT)
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to asker: OK! I was starting to have lots of doubts ! proves it might be worth taking the risk sometimes of suggesting a different answer....as I was part way to thinking, what have I written ?!

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Note added at 7 hrs (2006-06-05 17:46:50 GMT)
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maybe grainy even then if it's like a gommage.....which is essentially a mixture with bits, grains in to smooth the skin...

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Note added at 22 hrs (2006-06-06 09:00:32 GMT)
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I'm not sure why I've got 2 disagrees below when clearly the cream is producing an uneven effect...yet based on those comments, how about a fibrous texture? we can't use fluffy as it's frequently used in a positive way for creams - meaning light and fluffy.

Julie Barber
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:51
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 24
Grading comment
Thanks to all for the extensive discussion of this term -- your time is much appreciated. I chose this answer based on the client's comments.
Notes to answerer
Asker: I found this link too, and I can see how the inside of a leather boot, for example, could be described as 'pelucheux' (as can the outside of a kiwi). But would this be a good or bad thing for skin?! 'Uneven' would make sense, but another word is used for this later in the sentence, so I imagine it would be different.

Asker: 'Fluffy' still doesn't sound right to me. I have now asked the client for clarification so that hopefully we can clear this up!

Asker: The client got back to me quickly: Dans ce cas il s'agit d'un defaut de la creme qui réagit avec la peau en formant des petites "peluche" ou "grumeaux" comme après un gommage. So I'd say 'lumpy' would fit!

Asker: The skin can't shed fluff, so I imagine that the product forms into lumps on the skin. See client's definition: Dans ce cas il s'agit d'un defaut de la creme qui réagit avec la peau en formant des petites "peluche" ou "grumeaux" comme après un gommage. So yes, it is negative.

Asker: Personally, I am satisfied with 'lumpy', or 'bumpy'. Only half an hour until delivery!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Maryse Trevithick
3 hrs
  -> thanks

disagree  JCEC: Pelucheux is a fleecy texture
6 hrs
  -> post fleecy then.....

disagree  df49f (X): pelucheux means qui fait des "pluches/peluches" comme un pull en laine - like shedding fluff, nappy (lumpy wouldn't work IMHO) - and it is most likely not a positive descriptor for a face cream :))
7 hrs
  -> crusty then? :) what would you suggest?
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1 day 5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
a filmy aspect of the skin


Explanation:
it’s left to you to choose what word to use. Fluffy runs in my dictionary but I checked it up and found it was used as to this contexts: a. softness b. texture c. lightness. IMO, as to the foundation cream, lightness is where fluffy is concerned with and the french word moussé came to mind. Soufflé is also a recognized word in English. These words serve to give the idea of a lathery lightness or something puffed up or gossamery.
As for the skin, texture is where fluffy “should” be concerned with. You could translate is as “filmy aspect of the skin’, “fuzzy aspect of the skin” if fluffy is a word that fails to capture the real picture.


nnaemeka Odimegwu
Nigeria
Local time: 20:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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