Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
ganz fertig auf die Welt gekommen
English translation:
Mozart came fully formed into the world, ...
Added to glossary by
Friderike Butler
Oct 28, 2005 14:19
18 yrs ago
German term
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Native in: German
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ganz fertig auf die Welt gekommen
German to English
Art/Literary
Music
Karl B�hm on Mozart
Mozart ist *ganz fertig auf die Welt gekommen*, ein Lichtblick für viele Jahrhunderte. (Karl Böhm)
This quote appears in a marketing brochure for a themed river cruise. I was not able to find the same German quote or an English equivalent online. I need help with the part between **. Thank you!
This quote appears in a marketing brochure for a themed river cruise. I was not able to find the same German quote or an English equivalent online. I need help with the part between **. Thank you!
Proposed translations
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Change log
Oct 28, 2005 17:41: Marcus Malabad changed "Term asked" from "Help with quote (Karl B�hm)" to "ganz fertig auf die Welt gekommen" , "Field (write-in)" from "Mozart" to "Karl B�hm on Mozart"
Proposed translations
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German term (edited):
Help with quote (Karl B�hm)
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Mozart came fully formed into the world, ...
Judging from several previous Kudoz questions about German 'quotations' from well-known persons, the text may actually be a paraphrase or even originate from somebody else (not that Germans are the only ones to engage in that practice).
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks for your input."
+1
9 mins
German term (edited):
Help with quote (Karl B�hm)
was born as an accomplished composer / was a born composer
Not an official translation by any means, just my two cents...
Peer comment(s):
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michael10705 (X)
: yes to "a born composer" or "a born musician"
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Steven Sidore
: where is his profession mentioned?
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+2
10 mins
Mozart entered this world in a perfect state
...a beacon of light for many centuries to come
Just my guess
Just my guess
Peer comment(s):
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Rebecca Garber
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| agree |
Steven Sidore
: sounds like the best of the lot to me.
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writeaway
: since Böhm was a conductor and Mozart wasn't a exactly a dancer, I don't think a perfect state reflects what Böhm meant. this sounds too physical. like he came into the world as a healthy baby.
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Lancashireman
: With writeaway. Too physical
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+3
31 mins
Neil Crockford
Native in English
40 years' industry experience
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, Portuguese to English, Spanish to English, and 7 more.
German term (edited):
Help with quote (Karl B�hm)
sprang fully-formed into the world
657 hits for "sprang fully-formed"
Peer comment(s):
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Ken Cox
: honest, I didn't steal your idea...
4 mins
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| neutral |
Steven Sidore
: the only place I've ever heard this is in reference to Athena, who sprang fully-formed from Zeus' forehead. It seems a bit much, even for Wolfie.
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| agree |
Armorel Young
: perhaps someone should start a forum thread on "the most meaningless statement I've ever had to translate" :-)
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Lancashireman
: What a surprise for Mrs Mozart...
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Hilary Davies Shelby
: exactly what i was going to suggest! But what a bizarre thing to write...Forgot to say that this is quite a common phrase in English, relating to the legend Steven mentions.
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+1
3 hrs
Jonathan MacKerron
Native in English
Retired as of Jan 2019!
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English
Related KudoZ points
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43
German term (edited):
Help with quote (Karl B�hm)
was born a consummate musician
was already a consummate musician at birth
Peer comment(s):
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Lancashireman
: Yes, something with 'consummate'.
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| neutral |
Steven Sidore
: where is his profession mentioned?
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...already the finished product
When Mozart [entered the world / came into the world / was born] he was already the finished product.
Going back to the original industrial/commercial imagery of ‘fertig’, ‘the finished product’ refers to an item that needs no further processing or refinement. ‘Product’ may sound strange applied to a human being but there are google references to sports stars who are ‘the finished product’.
This option also has the merit of not being specific about the profession (Steven’s point)
Going back to the original industrial/commercial imagery of ‘fertig’, ‘the finished product’ refers to an item that needs no further processing or refinement. ‘Product’ may sound strange applied to a human being but there are google references to sports stars who are ‘the finished product’.
This option also has the merit of not being specific about the profession (Steven’s point)
Peer comment(s):
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gangels (X)
: the finished product ready for marketing, I suppose. Way too commercial-sounding
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