Nov 25, 2006 15:25
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English term

Secure the stack

English Marketing Engineering: Industrial Bluetooth Headset
Look for companies with a strong competitive threat where we need to secure the stack.

Compete in order to secure the stack.

What dose "Secure the stack" mean in this context?
This is for sales guide for employees.

Discussion

Valters Feists Nov 27, 2006:
Erich, can you show an example where "brand stack" is used as a noun phrase? It's not quite the same as "[does the brand] stack up" (verb!). I did however find "stack vendors" - either the programming stack or the techology/product stack, dep. on context.
ErichEko ⟹⭐ Nov 26, 2006:
...refers to....
ErichEko ⟹⭐ Nov 26, 2006:
IMHO, stack here refers "brand stack"; positioning of brand/product. E.g. cable TV brand stack is topped by CNN. Here is a good reading; not about "securing", but "creating" brand's place in the stack: http://www.mindpik.com/Tools/GotMarketing/index.php
Kaori Myatt (asker) Nov 25, 2006:
I am so sorry... THis is marketing term and is not particulary related to Blue tooth...Alex is on a right track, I suppose. I would wait for more answers and close in 24 hours. Other answers are also very helpful! ;))
Non-ProZ.com Nov 25, 2006:
Thanks for your note. To sell the products, I suppose.
Tony M Nov 25, 2006:
What's the connection (if any) with the Bluetooth headset?

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A possible explanation

This seems to be from software (esp. Microsoft) sales jargon. Basically, it means to sell some products with an additional goal of creating a situation wrere it becomes beneficial for the customer to stick to the platform. A sort of explanation can be found here:



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Note added at 7 hrs (2006-11-25 23:01:05 GMT)
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Microsoft of course cash rich as it is and was, was looking for investment opportunities, that enabled it to do what it does best ensure that Microsoft platforms are at the core of any system that is installed. This strategy also called "Sell the App secure the Stack" is at the center of many of Microsoft's actions, just as Google today are using their leverage in search engines to sell / push you many other services, and as Apple are using their IPod dominance to push other things. Basic economics 101 as they say in the US.



http://dynamicsmatters.blogspot.com/2006_11_01_archive.html

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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2006-11-26 16:55:41 GMT)
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Dear asker, the "response to comment field" is too short for what I need to say in response to Mr. Ekoputra reasoning. He thinks that the your text is talking about "securing position in 'brand stacks'", making this conclusion from the many hits to "brand stacks" in Google. The problem with the esteem gentleman's reasonings is that practically ALL of those hits are to usage of "stack" as a verb, not a noun. There are no "brand stacks" to secure a position in. Mr. Ekoputra further refers to the Oxford dictionary, quoting the definition of the idiom "stack up", apparently again missing the fact that this is a verbal idiom, and "stack" here is not a noun, nor is it an ajective or any kind of qualifier of "positon". In short, the entire line of reasoning seems to be irrelevant to the context at hand and more related to stacks of sticks of b..stack.

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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2006-11-26 16:56:41 GMT)
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Too may typos in my note, sorry. Hope it still makes some sense.
Peer comment(s):

disagree zaphod : Hey, I'l return the favor. Do the Google search AH
7 hrs
zaphod, I don't care of course, but you should read the kudoz rules. Your comments shouldn't be "favors" or disfavors for me but intended for asker's information. You are deliberately misleading the asker.
agree Dave Calderhead : with the solution in note after 7 hours - incendentally my stack description is generic and includes memory stacks and control stacks, which are central to how MS Windows and other operating systems work - I spent over 30 years programming computers
9 hrs
Thanks, Dave. I'm a SW engineer too. The "Note" is not my words: it's a quote from the site cited below in support of my original answer. If you think the use in the original is about memory or control stacks, you should "disagree"
neutral Valters Feists : Good point. Hopefully, more context will confirm this.
11 hrs
Thanks Valters. I believe your comments in "ask the asker" support my opinion.
disagree ErichEko ⟹⭐ : Out of context. See ALL ASKER LINES: it's about competition; // secure the stack >< create "cust-brand stickiness", but = secure position in "brand stack"//stack up vs competitor's brand, then secure that stack :)
21 hrs
So, do you or do you not understand what "stack" refers to? If you think it refers to "_stacking_ up against competition", you may need to review your grammar.//Dear Erich, could you get a hold of yourself and try to refrain from personal comments?
agree Fan Gao : Your note posted after 7 hours makes good sense. I like the "sell the app, secure the stack" saying:)
1 day 18 hrs
Thanks. Again, the note is not my words but a quote in support of my original suggestion.
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The Stack is the connectivity protocol for Bluetooth

As opposed to other protocols I suppose. I think the phrase means "Assure connectivity" in this context.
Google: "Bluetooth secure the stack"
Lots of hits. This one is .PDF
www.ezurio.com/dl/open/?id=10

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-11-25 16:55:22 GMT)
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When drivers in MSDOS disconnnect, I know the error message is often "Stack dump" then a series of error codes. An information technician could tell you more.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Dave Calderhead : software routines can push information into a reserved area of memory called the STACK, which can be used for passing information between programs, which can then 'pop' information out of the stack - for information reead data if you so desire
1 hr
Thanks. I'm not sure of the exact fit.
disagree Alexander Demyanov : "Stack" has many more technical meanings, such as "memory stack", "control stack", etc. However, I don't believe any of these have anything to do with the context.//The context IS sales, whatever you might think. It says so in the asker's question.
6 hrs
Why? Because I don't think it has anything to do with sales? Did you do any research?
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17 hrs

defend your position in five customer satisfaction / branding factors

Marketingwise, there is something called branding index that builds upon five factors (see ref). Securing the stack is simply means defending your position in these five factors (= defending your image in customer mind).

Ref:
http://www.piribo.com/publications/sales_marketing/branding/...
Brand Share Index-Dissect the customer base of each leading brand to identify factors that strengthen and weaken bonds with specific customer segments
* Understand your customers' levels of satisfaction with your Promotion, Product, Price, Placement, and Service
* See how your competitors stack up on the same five factors
Peer comment(s):

disagree Alexander Demyanov : There is no reference to "securing the stack" in the article your reference, it doesn't talk about the concept.//Thank you so much for your advice. From now on I'll try to use logic. I'd like to return the favor and give you an advice too: use your brain.
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Pls read between the lines: stack refers to position/arrangement of competitors in one area/product. // here: http://librarymarketing.blogspot.com/2006/04/all-competition... we can see that stack is to do w/ competition not cross-selling.
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