Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
los periódicos de Bolivia...abordaron la molestia del oficialismo
English translation:
... the governing/ruling party / party liners /pro-government political forces
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Michael Powers (PhD)
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Spanish term
los periódicos de Bolivia...abordaron la molestia del oficialismo
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Government / Politics
Chilean Newspaper
Buen día:
Sigo traduciendo un artículo de un diario chileno y estoy en un apuro por la palabra oficialismo. Tal vez ustedes me puedan echar una mano. La oración dice así:
"Los periódicos de Bolivia, Venezuela, Perú y Argentina abordaron la molestia del oficialismo y de la oposición chilena a raíz de las palabras de Castro y recalcaron el regocijo que sintió el Presidente de Bolivia, Evo Morales, al recibir el apoyo del líder cubano."
No les pido que traduzcan todo, sino la palabra "oficialismo". Lo único que se me ocurre es "ruling party" y no sé si es la mejor traducción. Muchas gracias.
Sigo traduciendo un artículo de un diario chileno y estoy en un apuro por la palabra oficialismo. Tal vez ustedes me puedan echar una mano. La oración dice así:
"Los periódicos de Bolivia, Venezuela, Perú y Argentina abordaron la molestia del oficialismo y de la oposición chilena a raíz de las palabras de Castro y recalcaron el regocijo que sintió el Presidente de Bolivia, Evo Morales, al recibir el apoyo del líder cubano."
No les pido que traduzcan todo, sino la palabra "oficialismo". Lo único que se me ocurre es "ruling party" y no sé si es la mejor traducción. Muchas gracias.
Proposed translations
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References
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Jennifer Levey
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Change log
Feb 14, 2009 22:16: Michael Powers (PhD) changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
Feb 14, 2009 22:22: Michael Powers (PhD) changed "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences" , "Field (specific)" from "Journalism" to "Government / Politics"
Feb 15, 2009 19:22: Michael Powers (PhD) changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/773062">hfp's</a> old entry - "los periódicos de Bolivia...abordaron la molestia del oficialismo"" to ""... the governing/ruling party / party liners /pro-government political forces""
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Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
US Court Cert. 1980 Ph.D. 1981
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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365
Selected
... the governing/ruling party / party liners /pro-government political forces
The newspapers from Bolivia ... tackled the nuisance of the (see above)
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Mike :)
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pro-government political forces
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The Armed Forces as a Political Party: Chávez’s New ‘Geometry of ...
On 11 April 2002, when confrontations between pro-government political forces and the opposition left dozens of people dead in the streets of Caracas, ...
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POLITICAL POPULISM IN POST-MARCH 24 KYRGYZSTAN | Central Asia ...
Apr 18, 2007 ... Before the April 11 demonstration, the opposition sought to warn the public that pro-government political forces might hire groups of ...
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Kazakh president's daughter urges pro-government forces to unite ...
(From AP Worldstream) Byline: BAGILA BUKHARBAYEVA The Kazakh president's eldest daughter on Monday called on pro-government political forces to unite into ...
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Nikolas K. Gvosdev on Russia on National Review Online
Jan 28, 2004 ... "administrative resources" (including state control over the broadcast media) to promote pro-government political forces and hinder the ...
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Merriam-Webster
defnition of "party liners"
party-liners
One entry found.
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Main Entry:
party line
Function:
noun
Date:
1834
1: the policy or practice of a political party2: a single telephone circuit connecting two or more subscribers with the exchange —called also party wire3: the principles or policies of an individual or organization ; also : the explanation or interpretation usually put forth <the party line that her mother was a saint — Leslie Bennetts>
— par·ty–lin·er Listen to the pronunciation of party–liner \ˌpär-tē-ˈlī-nər\ noun
Look at definition number 3.
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Thank you for your kind words, hfp - Mike :)
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My pleasure, hfp - Mike :)
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pro-government political forces
Results 1 - 10 of about 291 for "pro-government political forces". (0.30 seconds)
Search Results
1.
The Armed Forces as a Political Party: Chávez’s New ‘Geometry of ...
On 11 April 2002, when confrontations between pro-government political forces and the opposition left dozens of people dead in the streets of Caracas, ...
www.realinstitutoelcano.org/wps/portal/rielcano_eng/Content... - 105k - Cached - Similar pages -
2.
POLITICAL POPULISM IN POST-MARCH 24 KYRGYZSTAN | Central Asia ...
Apr 18, 2007 ... Before the April 11 demonstration, the opposition sought to warn the public that pro-government political forces might hire groups of ...
www.cacianalyst.org/newsite/?q=node/4596 - 13k - Cached - Similar pages -
3.
Kazakh president's daughter urges pro-government forces to unite ...
(From AP Worldstream) Byline: BAGILA BUKHARBAYEVA The Kazakh president's eldest daughter on Monday called on pro-government political forces to unite into ...
www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-15662683_ITM - 24k - Cached - Similar pages -
4.
Nikolas K. Gvosdev on Russia on National Review Online
Jan 28, 2004 ... "administrative resources" (including state control over the broadcast media) to promote pro-government political forces and hinder the ...
www.nationalreview.com/comment/gvosdev200401280906.asp - 30k - Cached - Similar pages -
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Merriam-Webster
defnition of "party liners"
party-liners
One entry found.
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Main Entry:
party line
Function:
noun
Date:
1834
1: the policy or practice of a political party2: a single telephone circuit connecting two or more subscribers with the exchange —called also party wire3: the principles or policies of an individual or organization ; also : the explanation or interpretation usually put forth <the party line that her mother was a saint — Leslie Bennetts>
— par·ty–lin·er Listen to the pronunciation of party–liner \ˌpär-tē-ˈlī-nər\ noun
Look at definition number 3.
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Thank you for your kind words, hfp - Mike :)
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My pleasure, hfp - Mike :)
Note from asker:
| You are very diligent, Mike. I can't thank you enough. |
| After much consideration, I think I like "ruling party" the most. Thanks, Mike. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I appreciate it."
7 mins
Lydia De Jorge
United States
United States
Native in Spanish
&
English
Works in field
United States
Don't just say it, say it right!
Native in: Spanish 
, English
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
47
oficialismo = official circles
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Note from asker:
| I like your original translation, Lydia. |
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9 mins
Alexandra Goldburt
Specializes in field
California Court Certified Interpreter
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, Spanish to English, and 3 more.
ruling elite
Hi, hlp,
I think you are on the right track with the "ruling party". This is what my beloved, monolingual "Diccionario Salamanca" says on "oficialismo":
OFICIALISMO - Conjunto de personas o partidos que forman un gobierno o lo apoyan.
So, "ruling party" is definitely a part of it. "Ruling parties" (in plural) would be even better, but it still leaves out "personas que lo apoyan".
I would suggest the term "ruling elite".
Good luck!
I think you are on the right track with the "ruling party". This is what my beloved, monolingual "Diccionario Salamanca" says on "oficialismo":
OFICIALISMO - Conjunto de personas o partidos que forman un gobierno o lo apoyan.
So, "ruling party" is definitely a part of it. "Ruling parties" (in plural) would be even better, but it still leaves out "personas que lo apoyan".
I would suggest the term "ruling elite".
Good luck!
Note from asker:
| Thanks for taking the time to look this term up, Alexandra. |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Jennifer Levey
: 'ruling elite' would be totally unacceptable in the context of the 'oficialismo' in modern-day Chile. The current President's slogan is 'gobierno de/para todos los Chilenos'.
4 hrs
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I can only hope that she means what she says... Forgive me for my skepticism, but I know how the politicians are, and if Michelle Bachelet really means what she says, then my hat is off to her.
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Cecilia Gowar
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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United Kingdom
I read the Alethiometer
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, French to Spanish, and 1 more.
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8
ruling circles
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jan2009/fran-j31.shtml
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/jan2005/iraq-j14.shtml
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oficialismo.
1. m. Am. Conjunto de hombres de un gobierno.
2. m. Am. Conjunto de tendencias o fuerzas políticas que apoyan al Gobierno.
(RAE)
Creo que en Latinoamérica la connotación es casi siempre la segunda.
Note from asker:
| Another good response. Thanks, cgowar. |
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55 mins
government (and opposition)
i.e the whole political spectrum was upset by the comments. This keeps it simple.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, patinba. I think you're on the right track. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Jennifer Levey
: Yes, both right and left are upset, and **in this specific context** it would be best to paraphrase the whole sentence to get this idea across, rather than focusing on the 'oficialismo'/'oposición' terminology
3 hrs
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Reference comments
27 mins
Jennifer Levey
Chile
Chile
Native in English
Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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78
Reference:
partial explanation
In Chile, 'oficialismo' refers to the 'Concertación' which is the coalition of political parties which gained a majority in the last elections and forms the current government.
You cannot translate it as 'the government', because the current government includes one or more members of the opposition 'Alianza' and maybe some people from other sectors of the political spectrum.
You cannot, in this case, 'downgrade' the term to mere 'party liners' or similar terms, since the President herself expressed vexation in her comments to the press on arriving home from her trip to Cuba.
That's may all seem rather negative in terms of finding the most appropriate term in English, but eliminating 'obvious' but inept answers is part of the game...
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Re hpf's question below:
Assuming the purpose here is to provide a meaningful, politically correct and unbiassed explanation of what happened for the benefit of English speakers (natives and non-native speakers alike), who less likely than their Chilean counterparts to be 'au fait' with the current political structure here, I would 'trans-plain' the sentence along the lines suggested in the 'explanation' given by patinba in her answer.
How about "The press ... commented on the vexation felt by politicians from across the political spectrum as a consequence of the words ..."
You cannot translate it as 'the government', because the current government includes one or more members of the opposition 'Alianza' and maybe some people from other sectors of the political spectrum.
You cannot, in this case, 'downgrade' the term to mere 'party liners' or similar terms, since the President herself expressed vexation in her comments to the press on arriving home from her trip to Cuba.
That's may all seem rather negative in terms of finding the most appropriate term in English, but eliminating 'obvious' but inept answers is part of the game...
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Re hpf's question below:
Assuming the purpose here is to provide a meaningful, politically correct and unbiassed explanation of what happened for the benefit of English speakers (natives and non-native speakers alike), who less likely than their Chilean counterparts to be 'au fait' with the current political structure here, I would 'trans-plain' the sentence along the lines suggested in the 'explanation' given by patinba in her answer.
How about "The press ... commented on the vexation felt by politicians from across the political spectrum as a consequence of the words ..."
Note from asker:
| Good point, mediamatrix. How would you write this sentence? |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
jacana54 (X)
: Thanks for a great explanation. Feliz domingo!
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