Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

la segregación de toda divergencia

English translation:

the segregation caused by any kind of divergence.

Added to glossary by Julie Waddington
Feb 7, 2010 21:13
14 yrs ago
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Spanish term

la segregación de toda divergencia

Spanish to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
I cannot get this phrase down right. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Muchas culturas tiende a fundamentar la historia de su arte y literatura en unos textos fundacionales que, al definir la naturaleza de su propia comunidad, tienen algo de sacralizado, absoluto y excluyente. ***Estos asientan el núcleo de lo que en su momento se percibió, como una comunidad amenazada a partir de la segregación de toda divergencia.**

My attempt so far (but I think I have it backwards) is:

These texts consolidate the nucleus of what was perceived at the time as a community threatened with the segregation of.......???

Thanks.
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Feb 12, 2010 21:43: Julie Waddington Created KOG entry

Discussion

twiginbeak Feb 7, 2010:
De acuerdo con Aradai... Sin aclarar "a partir de", cualquier interpretación es conjetura.
Lucy Williams (asker) Feb 7, 2010:
Otro intento muchas gracias a todos, ha sido de gran ayuda, sobre todo cambiar el orden de la frase. Ver lo así estoy pensando en algo como:
Through the segregation caused by any kind of divergence, these texts consolidate the core of what was in its time considered a threatened community.
Aradai Pardo Martínez Feb 7, 2010:
Exacto! Estoy de acuerdo con Richard en que primero hay que aclarar la oración en español...
Aradai Pardo Martínez Feb 7, 2010:
Después de ver las propuestas, yo insisto en que "a partir" no es claro, bien podría indicar causa o momento temporal de partida...
twiginbeak Feb 7, 2010:
Hi Lucy. No estoy seguro, pero creo que la confusión aqui se base más en la estructura de la oración que el significado de las palabras.
A ver si lo siguiente no ayude:
A partir de la segregación de toda divergencia, estos asientan el núcleo de lo que en su momento se percibió como una comunidad amenazada.
Aradai Pardo Martínez Feb 7, 2010:
No entiendo a qué se refiere el "a partir de", podrías ser "by" si la amenaza es en sí la segregación o "since", suponiendo que se percibió amenazada desde el momento en que se inició (o concluyó) la segregación. Crees que más contexto ayude a clarificar el sentido? Después sería más fácil proponer una traducción...

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the segregation caused by any kind of divergence.

I think that inserting "caused" or even "brought about" might help to render this more clearly in English. And with regards to the "de toda" in the source, I suggest adding "any kind of" to add emphasis.

Depending on the rest of the text you might also consider "deviation" instead of divergence, but having said that divergence works well enough.
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threatened from any divergence of (the status, culture)

Es lo que pienso que quiere decir.
Peer comment(s):

agree Jenni Lukac (X) : I think Leonardo is on the right track.
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Muchas gracias Jenni.
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segregation of all/any divergence

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a community that became threatened following upon the segregation of all divergency

a partir de = following upon, after

a partir del lunes = following upon Monday, after Monday

means: long ago the "oneness" of the community was important, but it was threatened by "offshoots" (divergencias), which became "segregated" from it (i.e. lost to the community). Therefore the texts were adopted to maintain this oneness.
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(a community threatened)...by the segregation of any type of divergence.

Again, in the various illustrations of how "cumulative segregation" is brought about, ... 214, he states that "the fact of divergence in any case is not a ... the divergent form has an advantage over the type from which it diverges. ...
web2.wku.edu/~smithch/wallace/S410.htm - En caché
[PDF] To Segregate or to Separate? Special Education Expansion and ... - [ Traducir esta página ]Formato de archivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Versión en HTML
de JJW POWELL - Artículos relacionados - Las 4 versiones
4 Mar 2009 ... and Divergence in the United States and Germany ...... sidered a “suspect class”—a group deserving of such high protection that any .... orate differentiation, and allocation to segregated school types. ...
www.wzb.eu/.../powell2009_speceducexpansion_us-germany.pdf - Similares
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