Jul 3, 2011 09:18
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English term

narcotics log

English to Spanish Medical Medical: Pharmaceuticals Terminología hospitalaria, España
Hola a todos,

El término "narcotics log" aparece dos veces en una evaluación de calidad en un hospital español, bajo el epígrafe "Medication Management and Use". Me gustaría saber qué nombre recibe este registro/ficha en el ámbito hospitalario español.

Ejemplos de uso:

"A fentanyl vial was missing in the narcotics log due to the fact that it had been used two weeks earlier and had not been recorded."

"In the operating theatre, there were three fentanyl vials in excess which had not been counted in the narcotics log."

Muchas gracias por vuestra ayuda,

Álvaro :O) :O)

Discussion

moken (asker) Jul 4, 2011:
Os digo algo Hola. Lo primero, muchísimas gracias por todas las aportaciones al tema. Al repasar la lista de evaluadores/as, acabo de caer en la cuenta de que conozco a una de ellas. Voy a ver si está localizable, a ver si me puede sacer de dudas y os digo algo. :O)
moken (asker) Jul 3, 2011:
Hi Andy. True, but would you call that a log? I wasn't aware that log was used that way, but then again, it might not be, as I think the evaluator who wrote the report isn't a native English speaker. From what I gather, it's a record that has to be kept on specific types of pharmaceuticals.
Andy Watkinson Jul 3, 2011:
Hi Sound more to me like an "inventory" than a register - but then again medicine ain't my thang ;-)

Proposed translations

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registro de anestesia

el registro de los anestésicos utilizados.

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Note added at 8 horas (2011-07-03 17:34:43 GMT)
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hola moken, también existe un registro de analgesia, registro de analgesia/sedación, etc., registro de fármacos, registro de medicamentos, las posibilidades son muchas...
El fentanilo es usado tanto en analgesia como en anestesia...


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se podría tratar de un anestésico, anestesia local... es posible su aplicación en planta.

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Note added at 8 horas (2011-07-03 18:03:08 GMT)
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Echa un vistazo a esto:

http://www.cun.es/area-salud/medicamentos/fentanilo-anestesi...

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en resumen, yo me decantaría por un registro de anestesia/registro anestésico....suerte!!!
Note from asker:
Hola Maryan. Error mío - en el primer ejemplo, me faltó mencionar que la diferencia se había producido en la planta de traumatología. ¿El registro anestésico es exclusivo del quirófano o se llevaría también en una planta de hospitalización?
Peer comment(s):

neutral liz askew : I do not agree with "anestesia" at all, this is about narcotics.
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http://salud.doctissimo.es/diccionario-medico/narcotico.html
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registro (libro o cuaderno...) de analgésicos

Entiendo que es similar al "drug accountability log" pero en este caso se ve que se utiliza para registrar de manera específica los analgésicos narcóticos que se administran a los pacientes.
Note from asker:
Hola Fer. Muchas gracias por tu aporte. El caso es que en una de las instancias, el fentanilo se habría usado como analgésico (planta de traumatología) y en el otro como anestésico (quirófano). Voy a ver si la evaluadora está localizable para consultarlo con ella y os digo algo. :O)
Peer comment(s):

neutral liz askew : these are specifically narcotics, there are narcotic analgesic drugs and non-narcotic analgesic ones.
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libreta de registro de control/hoja de registro de control/ de los narcóticos/de la administración

de los narcóticos

Manual de técnicas y procedimientos - Monografias.com - [ Translate this page ]
www.monografias.com › Salud › General - CachedAdministración de medicamentos por vía enteral. Administración de ... debe registrarlo en el registro adecuado de control de narcóticos y firmarlo. ...

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/narcotics

nar•cot•ic
noun \när-ˈkä-tik\
Definition of NARCOTIC
1
a : a drug (as opium or morphine) that in moderate doses dulls the senses, relieves pain, and induces profound sleep but in excessive doses causes stupor, coma, or convulsionsb : a drug (as marijuana or LSD) subject to restriction similar to that of addictive narcotics whether physiologically addictive and narcotic or not
2
: something that soothes, relieves, or lulls
See narcotic defined for English-language learners »
See narcotic defined for kids »


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perhaps you may prefer "opiáceos"

Lily Qmtz : Narcóticos (morfina,heroina,opio) - [ Translate this page ]
lilyqmtz.blogspot.com/2009/04/narcoticos-morfinaheroinaopio.html - Cached17 Abr 2009 – Narcóticos (morfina,heroina,opio). 13. Opiaceos. Los opiáceos, llamados a veces narcóticos, son un grupo de drogas utilizadas médicamente ...

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Indeed, Alvaro, narcótico o estupefaciente, obviously the Proz refs I quoted were not thorough enough

Narcótico - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre - [ Translate this page ]
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcótico - CachedUn narcótico o estupefaciente es una sustancia medicinal que, por definición, provoca sueño o estupor y, en la mayoría de los casos, inhibe la transmisión ...

Narcóticos - [ Translate this page ]
www.botanical-online.com/drogas/drogasnarcoticos.htm - Cached¿Qué son los narcóticos? Los narcóticos o estupefacientes son aquellas substancias que producen estupor, es decir una especie de torpeza personal , de ...

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May I just ask though why you are all avoiding the word "narcóticos"??
Note from asker:
Hi Liz, and thanks again for your interest. I'm not 'avoiding' it per se - I actually know that I could 'get away with it'. I'm just trying to find out whether there's a commonly used term for this log in the Spanish hospital setting. From what I gather, there are certain medications that are legally required to be strictly controlled - narcotics obviously, but I believe there are others too. To this end, every medical department has to keep a close record of any medication of this kind that they use and, as Andy put it, an inventory of the quantity of each of these medications in each dept. or unit. I've already put this to the client (extremely nice people) and they've told me to send it in as is and that they'll get back to me if the other evaluator can put her finger on the precise term, so no more work needed on this for now. I do promise to get back to you with some feedback - it's the very least I could do after all the trouble and effort I've put you through! :O) :O)
Peer comment(s):

agree Emiliano Pantoja
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Reference comments

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Reference:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:htFM4TtDdXMJ:www....

The narcotics log is also a manual process, where nurses document the administration of narcotics and then perform a narcotic count for reconciliation at the end of the shift

1.
Analgésicos Narcóticos y Aspirina (Orales)
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www.salud.com/.../analgesicos_narcoticos_y_aspirina_orales.... - Cached
Los medicamentos combinados que contienen analgésicos narcóticos y aspirina se usan para aliviar el dolor. Si algo de la información en este folleto le ...
2. Qué es un analgesico narcótico? - Yahoo! Respuestas
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es.answers.yahoo.com › ... › Salud › Otros - Salud - Cached
4 answers - 2 Aug 2006
Los narcóticos son derivados de los opiáceos. Son analgésicos más potentes y se usan cuando los analgésicos comunes no hacen efecto. ...

[PDF]
MANUAL DE PROCEDIMIENTOS DEL SERVICIO DE SALUD MENTAL
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201.161.5.235/pdf/manuales/procedimi/.../SaludMentalMarzo09.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Firmar de recibido en la libreta de registros de narcóticos. 3.22 Es responsabilidad del personal de Enfermería: ✓. Solicitar al jefe de anestesiología el ...


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and this is more likely to be a log sheet


Translation of Log sheet in English
translation.babylon.com › English Translation - CachedMore: English to English translation of Log sheet. Log sheet in Spanish. hoja de registros | fichero de registros | ficha de registros ...

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ADMINISTRACION DE MEDICAMENTOS - [ Translate this page ]
www.scribd.com/doc/.../ADMINISTRACION-DE-MEDICAMENTO... - CachedNarcóticos orales. Comprobar el registro de narcóticos por el recuento previo y compararlo con los suministros disponibles. Luego extraer el siguiente ...

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Introducción a la enfermería - Google Books Result
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=968180354X...
María del Carmen Ledesma Pérez - 1985 - Medical - 181 pages
La administración de narcóticos requiere ministración, observación y registro cuidadoso por parte de la enfermera. 3. Reportar los efectos tóxicos ...

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"No" to your query re "estupefacientes"

hallazgo de estupefacientes > finding of drugs - ProZ.com
www.proz.com › KudoZ home › Spanish to English › Law (general) - Cached(KudoZ) Spanish to English translation of hallazgo de estupefacientes: finding of drugs [Judicial Power - Law (general) (Law/Patents)].

estupefaciente > mood altering drugs (substances) - ProZ.com
www.proz.com › ... › Spanish to English › Medical: Pharmaceuticals - Cached13 Mar 2005 – (KudoZ) Spanish to English translation of estupefaciente: mood altering drugs (substances) [Medical: Pharmaceuticals (Medical)].

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Narcotics are a very specific type of drug, a definition of which is covered in the merriam-webster dictionary.

When used medically they are mainly used for the relief of pain in terminal cancer, (morphine and opium/opiates)

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Surely the log IS specifically for narcotics, otherwise why call it a "narcotics log"??

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Also

Analgésicos narcóticos - [ Translate this page ]
www.psiquiatria24x7.com/bgdisplay.jhtml?itemname=substance.... - Cached21 Jun 2011 – Las drogas analgésicas son calmantes mucho más fuertes (analgésicos narcóticos). Algunos analgésicos narcóticos son 'opiáceos' - drogas ...
Analgesicos no narcoticos AINES - [ Translate this page ]
www.slideshare.net/.../analgesicos-no-narcoticos-aines - United States - CachedAnalgésicos no opioides.aines INSTITUTO POLITECNICO NACIONAL ESCUELA SUPERIOR DE MEDICINA.
Note from asker:
Thank you Liz, that's very helpful. This is more or less what I had understood, though I'm unsure as to whether the log is specifically for narcotics or whether it includes other types of medication. I've found several instances of "registro de estupefacientes" in this context, could that be it?
Hi Liz. Estupefaciente is a synonym for narcotics: DRAE: estupefaciente m. Sustancia narcótica que hace perder la sensibilidad; p. ej., la morfina o la cocaína. Also: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narc%C3%B3tico The reason I asked is that I found some references to libro/registro de estupefacientes related mainly to chemist's but also some hospitals: http://www.google.es/search?hl=es&biw=1024&bih=577&q=%22registro+de+estupefacientes%22+hospital+site%3A.es&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
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