Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Portuguese term or phrase:
abdome depressível
English translation:
soft abdomen with no guarding
Added to glossary by
Cristiane Tiemi
Apr 6, 2018 19:45
6 yrs ago
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Portuguese term
Brazil
abdome depressível
Portuguese to English
Medical
Medical (general)
Physical examination
In a case report, they are describing the findings from the physical examination of a patient with nephrotic syndrome, among them: "abdome globoso, depressível, indolor". What is the common term in English for "depressível" in this context? I know an "edema depressível" is a "pitting edema", but I am not sure it fits here.
Proposed translations
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| 5 +1 | soft abdomen |
Raquel Dominguez
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| 4 +4 | depressible |
Clauwolf
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| 4 | no guarding |
Rachel Fell
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Change log
Apr 11, 2018 13:45: Cristiane Tiemi Created KOG entry
Apr 11, 2018 13:51: Cristiane Tiemi changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/2017691">Cristiane Tiemi's</a> old entry - "abdome depressível"" to ""soft, no guarding abdomen""
Proposed translations
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14 hrs
Raquel Dominguez
Uruguay
Uruguay
Specializes in field
Uruguay
ES native
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: English to Spanish, French to Spanish, German to Spanish, and 4 more.
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soft abdomen
It is the usual term.
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you!"
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7 mins
depressible
:) It's literal
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depressible abdomen, of course
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https://books.google.com.br/books?isbn=032303280X - Traduzir esta página
Chris A. Liacouras, David A. Piccoli - 2008 - Medical
Abdomen is protuberant, but soft, depressible, not tender, and without organomegaly. There is no clubbing, edema, or rash. The remainder of the systemic examination is within normal limits. EPIDEMIOLOGY Intestinal parasites infect millions of people worldwide, especially in developing countries where potable water is ...
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depressible abdomen, of course
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Note added at 4 days (2018-04-10 20:34:24 GMT)
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https://books.google.com.br/books?isbn=032303280X - Traduzir esta página
Chris A. Liacouras, David A. Piccoli - 2008 - Medical
Abdomen is protuberant, but soft, depressible, not tender, and without organomegaly. There is no clubbing, edema, or rash. The remainder of the systemic examination is within normal limits. EPIDEMIOLOGY Intestinal parasites infect millions of people worldwide, especially in developing countries where potable water is ...
Note from asker:
| Thank you very much for your prompt reply, Clauwolf. I see a few colleagues agree with this translation, but I could only find sources from Brazil and Spanish-speaking countries using it, which makes me think this might be a very common literal translation. The organizers of the book you posted later do work in Philadelphia, but that part of the book is a case report from an underdeveloped country where parasitic infections are endemic (possibly Portuguese- or Spanish-speaking), so I am still not very convinced this is most accurate term in English. I don't mean to dispute your kind contribution, just to raise the question to all of us whether this isn't a term that we just got used to seeing instead of the usual term in English-speaking hospitals. I really appreciate your help, though =) |
Peer comment(s):
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Muriel Vasconcellos
: Yes, but a reference would have helped.
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obrigado
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Mario Freitas
: Referência é para os fracos, Muriel. Just kidding!
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obrigado
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Margarida Ataide
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obrigado
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Claudio Mazotti
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obrigado
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Rachel Fell
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ok, up there
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3 days 23 hrs
Rachel Fell
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Thorough, knowledgeable and resourceful
Native in: English (Variant: UK)
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, Italian to English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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18
no guarding
It means there is no resistance when the patient is examined.
http://www.mtstars.com/word-no-rebound-guarding-or-rigidity-...
Soft abdomen with no guarding
Note tenderness,rigidity,involuntary guarding,voluntary
guarding (steth@test),
http://www.jjs.me.uk/images/docs/Acute abdomen.pdf
Patients presenting with central abdominal pain, with or without guarding and rigidity, that settles in the RLQ should arouse suspicion of appendicitis. Evidence A Acute mesenteric adenitis often resembles acute appendicitis; however, pain in the abdomen is usually diffuse with tenderness not localised to the RLQ. Guarding may be present but rigidity is usually absent. Generalised lymphadenopathy is common and signs of an upper respiratory tract infection may be present (e.g., hyperaemic pharynx or oropharynx suggesting pharyngitis).
Patients with gastroenteritis usually exhibit diffuse abdominal pain without evidence of peritonitis (no guarding or rebound tenderness). Abdominal distension and hyperactive bowel sounds are a common finding
https://bestpractice.bmj.com/topics/en-gb/787/diagnosis-appr...
Here is the term in French to English, from a medical translator with "agrees" from two doctors:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/medical_general...
and this answer about an abdomen that wasn't "depressível" from another doctor, with an "agree" from another doctor, in French to English:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/medical_general...
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Thank you for the note, it's quite easy to do that, but it's OK, as long as the correct term is in the glossary :-)
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Note added at 4 days (2018-04-11 17:44:53 GMT) Post-grading
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I would not bother to try and get it regraded, it sounds rather time-consuming; I really don't mind. I'm not sure that it's necessarily soft though - it could be firm with no guarding - http://www.pediatricsconsultantlive.com/pediatric-skin-disea...
http://www.mtstars.com/word-no-rebound-guarding-or-rigidity-...
Soft abdomen with no guarding
Note tenderness,rigidity,involuntary guarding,voluntary
guarding (steth@test),
http://www.jjs.me.uk/images/docs/Acute abdomen.pdf
Patients presenting with central abdominal pain, with or without guarding and rigidity, that settles in the RLQ should arouse suspicion of appendicitis. Evidence A Acute mesenteric adenitis often resembles acute appendicitis; however, pain in the abdomen is usually diffuse with tenderness not localised to the RLQ. Guarding may be present but rigidity is usually absent. Generalised lymphadenopathy is common and signs of an upper respiratory tract infection may be present (e.g., hyperaemic pharynx or oropharynx suggesting pharyngitis).
Patients with gastroenteritis usually exhibit diffuse abdominal pain without evidence of peritonitis (no guarding or rebound tenderness). Abdominal distension and hyperactive bowel sounds are a common finding
https://bestpractice.bmj.com/topics/en-gb/787/diagnosis-appr...
Here is the term in French to English, from a medical translator with "agrees" from two doctors:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/medical_general...
and this answer about an abdomen that wasn't "depressível" from another doctor, with an "agree" from another doctor, in French to English:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/medical_general...
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Note added at 4 days (2018-04-11 14:08:54 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you for the note, it's quite easy to do that, but it's OK, as long as the correct term is in the glossary :-)
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Note added at 4 days (2018-04-11 17:44:53 GMT) Post-grading
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I would not bother to try and get it regraded, it sounds rather time-consuming; I really don't mind. I'm not sure that it's necessarily soft though - it could be firm with no guarding - http://www.pediatricsconsultantlive.com/pediatric-skin-disea...
Note from asker:
| Thank you very much, Rachel! I am deeply sorry, I was supposed to choose your answer as the best one (as you backed it up with several and useful references), but I made a mistake and cannot undo it. Please accept my apologies. |
| According to the FAQ, to un-grade this question, I would have to obtain the agreement of the user who received the points and then send a support request to ProZ. I can try to do that, but I don't know if the other user would agree, as his answer also seems to be part of the usual terminology in this context. |
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