long-arm statutes

07:30 Jan 29, 2019 

I wouldn't call it a fudge to translate long-arm statutes by règles de compétence because a long-arm statute is a type of règle de compétence. It's a rule about when the courts of state X are competent to hear a lawsuit against a defendant residing in state Y. Long-arm statutes are not a "related concept" but a subset of or type of the larger, more general concept.

And again, I'm not saying "règles de compétence" is how we should all translate "long-arm statutes" all the time. It just happens to work in OP's text because it's immediately followed by an explanation of what a long-arm statute is.

Michèle, your translation (the one you just posted in your last Jan. 28 comment) is absolutely correct. That's exactly what the term means. If we were looking for an all-purpose translation of "long-arm statutes" as used in texts that don't explain what a long-arm statute is, then your translation would be ideal... because it's an explanatory translation.

In the context of the OP's text, though, there's already an explanation built in. So I'm sticking with règles de compétence, just in this particular case.

18:42 Jan 28, 2019 

but it's exactly that. Ideally it should be possible to find something shorter.

06:34 Jan 28, 2019 

In that case, and you are right, I apologize for my erroneous proposal, the correct translation should be: "Les lois qui permettent à un Etat d'exercer sa compétence sur un non-résident "

See: at page 177
https://www.unidroit.org/french/principles/contracts/princip...

En vertu des règles pertinentes de conflit de lois, les exigences d’autorisation publique du droit d’autres pays liées au contrat peuvent également jouer un rôle (voir l’article 7(2) de la Convention de Rome de 1980 sur la loi applicable aux obligations contractuelles; l’article 11(2) de la Convention interaméricaine de 1994 sur la loi applicable aux contrats internationaux). Les lois qui permettent à un Etat d’exercer sa compétence sur un non-résident (“long-arm statutes”)dans certains pays peuvent également imposer des conditions
Art. 6.1.14 Principes d’UNIDROIT178 d’autorisation publique aux concessionnaires de licences ou aux filiales de sociétés situées à l’étranger. Cet article établit que ces conditions prévues par la loi applicable doivent être respectée

08:57 Jan 26, 2019 

it's a fudge - you simply avoid translating the concept of "long-arm statute" by using instead a related concept that would also cover "short-arm/whatever-arm statute" ...

Surely one way of cracking a hard but - simply avoid having to do it.

08:35 Jan 25, 2019 

Les règles de compétence are the rules that tell you which court is the proper court to hear a given case. That's what state long-arm statutes do: they tell you whether a court of State X is the proper court in which to bring a case against a person or company domiciled in State Y. They literally list the circumstances under which it is proper to sue a State Y domiciliary in State X's courts.

Here's a link to New York's long-arm statute (s. 302, the second one). It lists the actions, by people or companies not domiciled in New York, that you can properly sue for in a New York court: http://www.kentlaw.edu/perritt/courses/civpro/ny-longarm.htm...

I wouldn't use "règles de compétence" by itself with no context as a translation for long-arm statutes, but in the original text that Adamhans posted, it could work because the explanation of what it means is there too: "states have adopted long-arm statutes, allowing courts to acquire jurisdiction over anyone who conducts business within that state." Assuming a competent translation of the second part of that sentence, "règles de compétence" works fine here.

08:26 Jan 25, 2019 

State long-arm statutes do not have any extra-territorial scope (portée) or application.

A law with extraterritorial scope is a law of jurisdiction X that you can break even if you do part or all of the forbidden act in jurisdiction Y. For instance, US federal law (jurisdiction X) prohibits US citizens from traveling to other countries (jurisdiction Y) and raping children there: (https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-fede...

Most laws don't have any extraterritorial scope. For instance, if there is a US patent on a certain type of (let's say) car engine component, that means you can't make or sell that component in the US unless you get a license from the patent owner. But you can make and sell that component in Canada, Ireland, China, etc. no problem. US patent law does not apply extraterritorially.

That's not at all what state long-arm statutes are about. State X's long-arm statute doesn't make it illegal to do something in State Y. They just make it possible to sue someone who lives in State Y for something that they did in State X, or harm they caused to someone in State X.