Nov 19, 2020 22:25
3 yrs ago
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German term
United States
Was nicht ist, kann noch werden.
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: German to English
Scheibenstutzern
German to English
Tech/Engineering
Military / Defense
Hi folks,
Editing a job about muzzleloaders (modern) that can handle both black power and smokeless powder. I hit this term and, although it is present on the web mostly on auction sites, nobody seems to describe just what it is (at least not that I can find).
Can anybody help?
Here is the whole sentence:
Unten die Abbildung der Savage® Arms 10MLII mit Eigenbau-Buchen-Schichtholzschaft, der den Scheibenstutzern Mitte des 19. Jahrhunderts nachempfunden ist
Any pointers to a better description would be much appreciated.
Editing a job about muzzleloaders (modern) that can handle both black power and smokeless powder. I hit this term and, although it is present on the web mostly on auction sites, nobody seems to describe just what it is (at least not that I can find).
Can anybody help?
Here is the whole sentence:
Unten die Abbildung der Savage® Arms 10MLII mit Eigenbau-Buchen-Schichtholzschaft, der den Scheibenstutzern Mitte des 19. Jahrhunderts nachempfunden ist
Any pointers to a better description would be much appreciated.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 1 | target rifle |
Cilian O'Tuama
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| 3 | wheel-lock musket |
philgoddard
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Proposed translations
27 mins
Cilian O'Tuama
Germany
Germany
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Germany
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Native in: English
Works in: German to English, English, German, and 6 more.
Related KudoZ points
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16
Selected
target rifle
Compare google images for Perkussions-/Martini-Scheibenstutzer and percussion/martini target rifle.
No confidence
No confidence
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "After all of Liz's reference material, I found this:
https://www.collectorsfirearms.com/swiss-martini-tanner-10-4mm-swiss-rimfire-stutzer-rifle-al5078/
So, I ended up using "Stutzer target rifle." WOW, More than I ever wanted to know!
Thanks to everybody!"
21 mins
philgoddard
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Six languages into flawless English
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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11
German term (edited):
Scheibenstutzer
wheel-lock musket
Radschlossgewehr (Scheibenstutzer), Länge 95 cm, ohne Hahn
http://books.google.com/books?id=CtY4AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA3-PA59&lp...
Radschlossgewehr, Radschloßgewehr n AR
wheel-lock musket
https://en.langenscheidt.com/german-english/radschlossgewehr
http://books.google.com/books?id=CtY4AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA3-PA59&lp...
Radschlossgewehr, Radschloßgewehr n AR
wheel-lock musket
https://en.langenscheidt.com/german-english/radschlossgewehr
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Cilian O'Tuama
: Agree with Langenscheidt, but other reference hardly proves both German terms are synonymous - quite possible that one is merely an example of the other
21 hrs
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Reference comments
46 mins
Reference:
finding
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/britishmilitariaforums/swiss...
. Both have the strongly curved buttplates of "Scheibenstutzer" i.e. target rifles. And both have the backsights set in a dovetail. The anonymous Swiss has very fine damascene lines (about 0.5mm thick). Both have a screw for adjusting the let-off of the double set trigger, something which I cannot see on the rifle under discussion. There must be such a screw, to adjust the let-off to a safe setting. Of course, this screw may be lost, which would explain the "hairy" trigger.
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... Außerhalb von Lenzburg Beginn der Herstellung von Scheibenstutzern mit Martini-System. ... Ein Match- Abzug sollte außerdem in seinen wesentlichen Funktionen ... SMALL BORE RIFLE.22 l.r. PROFESSIONAL MANUAL Abzug einstellen ...
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Note added at 53 mins (2020-11-19 23:19:14 GMT)
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Sharps Scheibenstutzen
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The famous name and the unique mechanical design of the 1874 Sharps rifle is offered to the modern shooter who wishes to practice the challenge of Schutzen target shooting with a rifle rich in American history. The Sharps Scheibenstutzen is equipped with a Lothar Walther barrel having a matt blue finish. The frame and steel parts are case hardened colour finish. The barrel is drilled and tapped to be equipped with a scope. The walnut stock and forend are oil finish; the butt stock is fitted with a traditional "hook style" butt plate and the forend is equipped to fit a mushroom style palm rest.
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Note added at 55 mins (2020-11-19 23:20:57 GMT)
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FINE RARE SHARPS MODEL 1874 NO. 1 CREEDMOOR ...https://www.morphyauctions.com › jamesdjulia › item
FINE RARE SHARPS MODEL 1874 NO. 1 CREEDMOOR DELUXE SINGLE SHOT TARGET RIFLE. SN 15224. Cal. 45 2-4/10 (45-100 Sharps straight).
. Both have the strongly curved buttplates of "Scheibenstutzer" i.e. target rifles. And both have the backsights set in a dovetail. The anonymous Swiss has very fine damascene lines (about 0.5mm thick). Both have a screw for adjusting the let-off of the double set trigger, something which I cannot see on the rifle under discussion. There must be such a screw, to adjust the let-off to a safe setting. Of course, this screw may be lost, which would explain the "hairy" trigger.
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Note added at 49 mins (2020-11-19 23:15:02 GMT)
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... Außerhalb von Lenzburg Beginn der Herstellung von Scheibenstutzern mit Martini-System. ... Ein Match- Abzug sollte außerdem in seinen wesentlichen Funktionen ... SMALL BORE RIFLE.22 l.r. PROFESSIONAL MANUAL Abzug einstellen ...
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Note added at 53 mins (2020-11-19 23:19:14 GMT)
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Sharps Scheibenstutzen
Support
The famous name and the unique mechanical design of the 1874 Sharps rifle is offered to the modern shooter who wishes to practice the challenge of Schutzen target shooting with a rifle rich in American history. The Sharps Scheibenstutzen is equipped with a Lothar Walther barrel having a matt blue finish. The frame and steel parts are case hardened colour finish. The barrel is drilled and tapped to be equipped with a scope. The walnut stock and forend are oil finish; the butt stock is fitted with a traditional "hook style" butt plate and the forend is equipped to fit a mushroom style palm rest.
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Note added at 55 mins (2020-11-19 23:20:57 GMT)
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FINE RARE SHARPS MODEL 1874 NO. 1 CREEDMOOR ...https://www.morphyauctions.com › jamesdjulia › item
FINE RARE SHARPS MODEL 1874 NO. 1 CREEDMOOR DELUXE SINGLE SHOT TARGET RIFLE. SN 15224. Cal. 45 2-4/10 (45-100 Sharps straight).
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