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SS.LL.,

French translation: Vous

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Italian term or phrase: SS.LL., French translation: Vous Entered by: Lucia28

15:40 Sep 9, 2021

Italian to French translations [PRO] Law/Patents - Law (general)
Italian term or phrase: SS.LL., Bonjour, je ne comprends pas du tout ce sigle qui se trouve dans un document émis par la préfecture de Bari pour le changement de nom d'un enfant mineur. Le contexte est comme suit : "Nel caso di specie le SS.LL.," non potendo attivare il Consolato di appartenenza, dovranno produrre al Comune di Bari, che legge per conoscenza, un'attestazione rilasciata dall'Ufficio Francese per la Protezione dei Rifugiati... Merci beaucoup d'avance pour votre aide	Lucia28 KudoZ activity Questions: 395 (9 open) (16 without valid answers) (52 closed without grading) Answers: 0 France Local time: 19:52
Vous Explanation: Forma per seconda persona plurale in legalese molto legales link Accademia della Crusca https://accademiadellacrusca.it/it/consulenza/sui-pronomi-di... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2 hrs (2021-09-09 17:48:52 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Stralcio dal link: "la forma di uso più antico e insieme la meno problematica dal punto di vista funzionale dei tre pronomi di cortesia della lingua italiana (voi, lei per il sing. e loro per il plur.," -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2 hrs (2021-09-09 17:56:25 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Come dicevo in francese io userei vous 2a plurale perché non mi sembra che in francese una forma antica corrispondente e di sicuro l'italiano del contesto corrisponde a VOUS (VOI) 2A PL e NON a ILS (LORO) 3a pl,	Selected response from: Angie Garbarino Local time: 19:52
Grading comment Grazie moltissimo 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided
5	Le Signorie Loro	Patricia ARQUILLERE
4 +1	Vous	Angie Garbarino

Discussion entries: 4

Angie Garbarino Qui link dell'Accademia della Crusca a riprova 17:43 Sep 9, 2021  https://accademiadellacrusca.it/it/consulenza/sui-pronomi-di... "la forma di uso più antico e insieme la meno problematica dal punto di vista funzionale dei tre pronomi di cortesia della lingua italiana (voi, lei per il sing. e loro per il plur.," Angie Garbarino Emmanuella 17:41 Sep 9, 2021  Qui le loro signorie corrisponde a voi, dal contesto io lo vedo chiaro in italiano. Il legalese italiano molto formale e antico, usa LORO per il VOI seconda plurale formale, Emmanuella Italy 16:13 Sep 9, 2021  'Vous ' corrisponde alla seconda persona del plurale mentre abbiamo ' dovranno produrre , I.e la terza persona. Angie Garbarino in francese 15:59 Sep 9, 2021  Da quel che vedo nel contesto, basta un semplice VOUS reso formale dal resto del contesto. Automatic update in 00:

  

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Le Signorie Loro Explanation: dans le langage administratif italien, SS. LL. est mis pour "Le Signorie Loro" (La Signoria Vostra). Bonne soirée !	Patricia ARQUILLERE France Local time: 19:52 Works in field Native speaker of: French PRO pts in category: 23
Notes to answerer Asker: Merci beaucoup ! Et comment pourrait-on traduire cette abréviation ?
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Vous Explanation: Forma per seconda persona plurale in legalese molto legales link Accademia della Crusca https://accademiadellacrusca.it/it/consulenza/sui-pronomi-di... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2 hrs (2021-09-09 17:48:52 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Stralcio dal link: "la forma di uso più antico e insieme la meno problematica dal punto di vista funzionale dei tre pronomi di cortesia della lingua italiana (voi, lei per il sing. e loro per il plur.," -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2 hrs (2021-09-09 17:56:25 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Come dicevo in francese io userei vous 2a plurale perché non mi sembra che in francese una forma antica corrispondente e di sicuro l'italiano del contesto corrisponde a VOUS (VOI) 2A PL e NON a ILS (LORO) 3a pl,	Angie Garbarino Local time: 19:52 Specializes in field Native speaker of: Italian PRO pts in category: 47
Grading comment Grazie moltissimo
Notes to answerer Asker: Merci beaucoup
Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer) agree  Emanuela Galdelli: Giusto: " le SS.LL. dovranno produrre al Comune di Bari" 40 mins   -> Grazie carissima, un abbraccione!
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