Suboficial Técnico de Primera

English translation: Technical Noncommissioned Officer First Class

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Spanish term or phrase:Suboficial Técnico de Primera
English translation:Technical Noncommissioned Officer First Class
Entered by: schmetterlich

23:21 Dec 4, 2021
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
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Spanish term or phrase: Suboficial Técnico de Primera
POLICIA NACIONAL DEL PERÚ

PERSONAL DE SUBOFICIALES DE ARMAS
- Suboficial Superior : SS
- Suboficial Brigadier : SB
- Suboficial Técnico de Primera : ST1
- Suboficial Técnico de Segunda: ST2
- Suboficial Técnico de Tercera : ST3
- Suboficial de Primera : S1
- Suboficial de Segunda : S2
- Suboficial de Tercera : S3

Gracias
schmetterlich
Local time: 03:18
Technical Noncommissioned Officer First Class
Explanation:
In this context, I would choose the already known terms for this rank:
"Technical Noncommissioned Officer First Class". This is because of my own experience in the military field.
Selected response from:

Ignacio González Sánchez
Uruguay
Local time: 05:18
Grading comment
Gracias
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1Specialist NCO - First Class
patinba
4Technical Noncommissioned Officer First Class
Ignacio González Sánchez
Summary of reference entries provided
Context - refs.
Taña Dalglish

Discussion entries: 7





  

Answers


13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Specialist NCO - First Class


Explanation:
Specialist NCO Basic Training - MORHhttps://www.morh.hr › ... › News·
Specialist NCO Basic Training. 02.03.2012. share page: The specialist part of the 40th generation of NCO basic training was conducted from 5 December 2011 ...

Military Crosswalk for Occupational Category - State ...https://hr.sao.texas.gov › MOSC_HumanResourcesPDF
Specialist NCO. 47F USMA, Professor of. Systems. Engineering. 0913 Marine Combat. Instructor. 5977 Weapons and. Tactics Instructor. Aviation Command.
3 pages

PFI Open Tours - Defense Finance and Accounting Servicehttps://www.dfas.mil › 210208-PFI-OpenTours-508PDF
Feb 8, 2021 — Medical Logistics Specialist NCO. Army. E6, E5. Riyadh. Saudi Arabia. Click HERE to · apply. 20-0142. Defense Security Cooperation Agency.

patinba
Argentina
Local time: 05:18
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 176

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: Your refs are from anywhere but Peru ansd is there any such rank as "NCO" in the Peruvian police force?
11 hrs
  -> Yes, that is what a "suboficial" is. My intention was to coin an English equivalent with some backing from English-speaking sources. I now see that Taña has found some English refs for Peru that support my choice.

agree  Taña Dalglish
1 day 4 hrs
  -> Thank you, Taña!
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Technical Noncommissioned Officer First Class


Explanation:
In this context, I would choose the already known terms for this rank:
"Technical Noncommissioned Officer First Class". This is because of my own experience in the military field.

Ignacio González Sánchez
Uruguay
Local time: 05:18
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
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Gracias
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Reference comments


14 hrs peer agreement (net): +3
Reference: Context - refs.

Reference information:
This is far from an easy one (tricky):
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Military_ranks_of_Peru
National Police of Peru
Suboficial Técnico 1º
Suboficial Técnico 2º
Suboficial Técnico 3º

Equivalent (NATO rank)
WO-3
WO-2
WO-1


https://www.ccffaa.mil.pe/cultura-militar/grados-militares/


https://www.lexico.com/es-en/traducir/suboficial
suboficial
noncommissioned officer, n.
NCO

https://sawadee.wiki/wiki/Police_rank

In summary, and in all likelihood, the closest you may get is "non-commissioned offer" (NCO) - specialist as per patinba's suggestion.

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Note added at 14 hrs (2021-12-05 14:05:06 GMT)
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https://sawadee.wiki/wiki/Police_rank (see under Peru).


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Note added at 14 hrs (2021-12-05 14:07:44 GMT)
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Oops, apologies for the last link which is a duplicate! Uuf! I meant to post this one: https://www.wiki.en-us.nina.az/Military_ranks_of_Peru.html#T... (see National Police of Peru).

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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs (2021-12-06 12:02:20 GMT)
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Here is a link from Peru and references the "first technical non-commissioned officer" which is equivalent to WO-3 (NATO).

5 policemen fall for belonging to a criminal gang in Ayacucho https://today.in-24.com/News/262773.html
19 Aug 2021 — “The Police want to be the best institution in Peru,” added the ... and the first technical noncommissioned officer Alfredo Garay Garay, ...


Vraem: the terrorist killings perpetrated in the last thirteen years https://then24.com/2021/05/24/vraem-the-terrorist-killings-p...
24 May 2021 — At least three NCOs of the National Police died in a narco-terrorist ... The victims were the **first technical noncommissioned officer**, ...

Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 218

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  AllegroTrans: Yes, indeed not easy and risky to "force" an equivalent rank in an En spkg. country or NATO
10 hrs
  -> Thank you. However, I disagree with your neutral on patinba's proposal! The rank is an NCO (non-commissioned officer) which does exist in Peru and evident by all the links provided! This has nothing to do with "forcing" an equivalent, IMO!
agree  Marcelo González: useful references, Taña and, agreed: this is not easy. An approach is needed, and one based on NATO ranks may be an option
10 hrs
  -> Thanks Marcelo.
agree  patinba: Thank you for those refs that would seem to confirm at least part of my coinage!
22 hrs
  -> Absolutely. Thank you.
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