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en l'étude et en brevet

English translation: at the Office/Practice and delivered without recordation

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French term or phrase:en l'étude et en brevet
English translation:at the Office/Practice and delivered without recordation
Entered by: AllegroTrans

20:30 Jan 30, 2024
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
French term or phrase: en l'étude et en brevet
This comes from the end of a document that seemingly grants custody of a child from the office of a Notaire in Haiti.

"Fait et passé a XXXX, en l'Etude et en Brevet"

I get the "en l'Étude" as "in our Offices" but stumped by the "en Brevet" means in this instance.
Timothy Rake
United States
Local time: 15:54
at the Office/Practice and delivered without recordation
Explanation:
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noun. 1. formal. the act or process of recording something in the official records.

RECORDATION definition and meaning - Collins Dictionary


EN BREVET Definition & Legal Meaning
Black's Law Dictionary
https://thelawdictionary.org › E
In French law. An acte is said to be en brevet when a copy of it has not been recorded by the notary who drew it. Disclaimer. This article contains general ...



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notarial recordation meaning - Legal definition
TransLegal
https://dictionary.translegal.com › noun
the official registration of a document by a notary public.

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recordation - Wiktionary, the free dictionary
Wikipedia
https://en.wiktionary.org › wiki › recordation
recordation (countable and uncountable, plural recordations) (law) The act of giving legal status to a document by making it an official public record.
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:54
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3at the Office/Practice and delivered without recordation
AllegroTrans
5at our office; original handed to the parties
Jo Durning
Summary of reference entries provided
for starters
liz askew
liz askew
notarised/certified/registered copy
philgoddard
voir
liz askew

  

Answers


52 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
en l'Etude et en Brevet
at the Office/Practice and delivered without recordation


Explanation:
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Note added at 54 mins (2024-01-30 21:25:05 GMT)
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noun. 1. formal. the act or process of recording something in the official records.

RECORDATION definition and meaning - Collins Dictionary


EN BREVET Definition & Legal Meaning
Black's Law Dictionary
https://thelawdictionary.org › E
In French law. An acte is said to be en brevet when a copy of it has not been recorded by the notary who drew it. Disclaimer. This article contains general ...



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Note added at 1 hr (2024-01-30 21:49:27 GMT)
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notarial recordation meaning - Legal definition
TransLegal
https://dictionary.translegal.com › noun
the official registration of a document by a notary public.

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Note added at 1 hr (2024-01-30 21:52:28 GMT)
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recordation - Wiktionary, the free dictionary
Wikipedia
https://en.wiktionary.org › wiki › recordation
recordation (countable and uncountable, plural recordations) (law) The act of giving legal status to a document by making it an official public record.

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:54
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1355
Grading comment
Thank you

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andrew Bramhall: 'recordation' isn't a word I've come across before.//True Daryo, but if you ain't heard of 'em by age 66 you're entitled to assume they may be a bit niche, and not exactly common currency;
23 mins
  -> Try looking it up then, preferably in a business or legal dictionary
agree  Daryo: You can't argue against relevant references just because you never heard of them before.
3 hrs
  -> Indeed, thanks
agree  Emmanuella
16 hrs
  -> thank you
agree  Yvonne Gallagher
18 hrs
  -> thanks Yvonne
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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
at our office; original handed to the parties


Explanation:
The references are generally in line with Allegro Trans' suggestion/ Black's definition but make it clearer that the original document is passed to the parties (the notary may keep a record but not the original).


    https://archives.lot.fr/a/192/les-types-de-documents-/#:~:text=Les%20actes%20en%20brevet
    https://www.chone.notaires.fr/lexique-juridique-et-fiscal-de-bedaride-notaire-d-affaires/mot/acte-en-brevet.html
Jo Durning
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:54
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 6
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Reference comments


1 hr
Reference: for starters

Reference information:
Wiki
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L'acte notarié, parfois appelé acte notarial, est un acte juridique solennel ****établi et signé (fait et passé)**** par un notaire à la demande du comparant, ...

liz askew
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 96
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1 hr
Reference

Reference information:
https://www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais/traduction/fait et p...

Fait et passé à Bruxelles, en l'Etude.
ata-sec.org

Drawn up and executed at notarial offices in Brussels.

liz askew
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 96
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1 hr
Reference: notarised/certified/registered copy

Reference information:
We've had this many times before.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/law-contracts/19...

philgoddard
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 282

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  AllegroTrans: Yes, but I do not think either answer was correct - as they did not deal with "en brevet" which has a specific meaning
2 days 23 hrs
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1 hr peer agreement (net): +3
Reference: voir

Reference information:
Les actes en brevet

Certains actes (par exemple les procurations et les actes respectueux) sont dits « en brevet » : ils figurent sur le répertoire des actes du notaire, mais leur original est remis à la partie concernée et devient donc un document privé.

liz askew
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 96

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Daryo: Link?
2 hrs
agree  Emmanuella: https://www.chone.notaires.fr/
15 hrs
agree  AllegroTrans
15 hrs
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