collusive relationship

Dutch translation: criminele relatie, wederzijds misbruik

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English term or phrase:collusive relationship
Dutch translation:criminele relatie, wederzijds misbruik
Entered by: Henk Peelen

13:34 Apr 6, 2006
English to Dutch translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology
English term or phrase: collusive relationship
relationship that is harmful or secret or damaging
it is about leaders and folowers who have a relation in which they both reinforce each others bad sides
sylvia birnie
criminele relatie
Explanation:
misdadige relatie
relatie tot wederzijdse criminaliteitsbevordering
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Henk Peelen
Netherlands
Local time: 20:39
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dekt de lading niet helemaal, het gaat over management
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Summary of answers provided
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Tina Vonhof (X)
3Schadelijke relatie
Sanmar
3collusie
Roos Kolkena (X)
2criminele relatie
Henk Peelen
2heimelijke verstandhouding
Antoinette Verburg


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Schadelijke relatie


Explanation:
Misschien een mogelijkheid?


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Sanmar
United Kingdom
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criminele relatie


Explanation:
misdadige relatie
relatie tot wederzijdse criminaliteitsbevordering

Henk Peelen
Netherlands
Local time: 20:39
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dekt de lading niet helemaal, het gaat over management
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heimelijke verstandhouding


Explanation:
Gebaseerd op één van Van Dale's definities van 'collusie' ("heimelijke verstandhouding, m.n. om het opsporen van strafbare feiten te belemmeren").
Verstandhouding = relationship. De vraag is alleen of 'heimelijk' de lading genoeg dekt...


Hier nog een heel verhaal over die collusie of heimelijke verstandhouding: http://edata.ub.unimaas.nl/www-edocs/loader/file.asp?id=331

Gaat alleen niet per definitie over followers + leaders, volgens mij...


Antoinette Verburg
Netherlands
Local time: 20:39
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Explanation:
Explanation only, not for points.

It is a relationship that seems friendly and cooperative on the surface, but where in reality one party (ab)uses the other party in order to achieve his/her own goals without the other party being aware of it. This could be mutual, i.e., they (ab)use each other without either being aware of being (ab)used.

In Dutch maybe 'wederzijds misbruik' or something along those lines.

Tina Vonhof (X)
Canada
Local time: 12:39
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collusie


Explanation:
in interactietheorieen en modellen in systeemtheorie/therapie gebruikelijke term voor een relatie waarbij men onbewust schadelijk of onhandig gedrag in de interactie met elkaar uitlokt en in stand houdt. Dit hangt vaak samen met onopgeloste conflicten en behoeften vanuit de ontwikkelingsgeschiedenis.
Hangt natuurlijk van de context af of deze vertaling passend is.

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Roos Kolkena (X)
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