Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
\\\"secular litanies\\\"
French translation:
litanies séculaires
Added to glossary by
Tarik KHACHIAA
Sep 28, 2016 21:00
7 yrs ago
English term
Canada
Canadian French Localization Specialist
Native in: Arabic 
, French (Variants: Canadian, Standard-France)
Works in: English to French, English to Arabic, French to Arabic, and 1 more.
\"secular litanies\"
English to French
Art/Literary
Poetry & Literature
"It might have been a car door or the muezzin’s call, yet already the air was alive with the secular litanies of the meeting place two hundred yards away."
Proposed translations
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| 3 +1 | litanies séculaires |
Philippe Lascourrèges
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| 3 +6 | Litanies profanes |
Valérie KARAM
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| 3 | litanies d'autrefois |
JohnMcDove
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Proposed translations
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Selected
litanies séculaires
Qui a ou qui dure beaucoup d'années.
Contexte ? cela ressemble à l'appel à la prière...
litanie ancienne, qui existe depuis très longtemps; et qui, par sa répétitivité, nous est devenue familière....
Contexte ? cela ressemble à l'appel à la prière...
litanie ancienne, qui existe depuis très longtemps; et qui, par sa répétitivité, nous est devenue familière....
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Comment: "Thank you"
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Valérie KARAM
France
France
Native in French
France
Environment, Development: the right word
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
Works in: English to French
Litanies profanes
Profane par opposition à sacrée ou religieuse.
Peer comment(s):
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Alain Boulé
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Merci
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HERBET Abel
: Pourquoi profanes ???
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On parle par exemple de musique profane par opposition à la musique religieuse ou sacrée.
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FX Fraipont (X)
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Merci
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oliviervs
: La litanie est une prière collective d'intercession. Son sens figuré n'en retient que l'aspect répétitif et monocorde, voire ennuyeux. La "litanie profane" évoque pour moi un brouhaha, une publicité (?), une ritournelle monotone, plaintive et futile.
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Merci
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Annie Rigler
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Merci
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Didier Fourcot
: Pour rester plus proche de l'anglais on peut dire aussi "séculières" http://www.cnrtl.fr/lexicographie/séculier
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Merci
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katsy
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Merci
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JohnMcDove
: A "litany" however, is a religious prayer... Context is of the essence, but it sounds to me like the sound of the muezzin, repeated over and over... (?)
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I had some doubts because of he muezzin's call as well but maybe (with the car door) they are two extremes of the litanies, it would help to know what this meeting place is.
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English term (edited):
\\\"secular litanies\\\"
litanies d'autrefois
age-old litanies
Secular in the sense of very old.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2016-09-28 23:50:18 GMT)
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Or better yet, "litanies ancestrales", "litanies très anciennes", "litanies séculaires", "très anciennes litanies"...
Secular in the sense of very old.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2016-09-28 23:50:18 GMT)
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Or better yet, "litanies ancestrales", "litanies très anciennes", "litanies séculaires", "très anciennes litanies"...
Peer comment(s):
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Catharine Cellier-Smart
: Not convinced 'old' is the meaning here
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No it is not "old" but "age-old", "ancestral", "from old". Without further context it is just a matter of guessing.
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Discussion
the call to prayer is quite strident and some visitors use to say that it sounds like the cry of pain of a person who would have stuck up his finger in a car door