Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
magasins mutualists
English translation:
stores owned by a mutual insurance company
Added to glossary by
Hervé du Verle
Jul 1, 2005 21:34
18 yrs ago
French term
magasins mutualists
French to English
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optical glass
... la croissance du parc de magasins mutualists.
Context: document on opticians and branch and franchise expansion.
Context: document on opticians and branch and franchise expansion.
Proposed translations
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5 +6 | stores owned by a mutual insurance company | Hervé du Verle |
5 +2 | Optical stores having signed a partial refund convention with mutual insurance companies | Anna Maria Augustine (X) |
4 -1 | franchise opticians | Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) |
Proposed translations
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stores owned by a mutual insurance company
In some fields, and medical optics in particular, mutual insurance companies own and manage their own stores, for the benefit of the affiliates...
You may also find pharmacies and clinics (i.e. "private hospitals") run by mutual insurance companies or a group of...
http://www.mutoptic.fr/ >>Une optique mutualiste >> nos valeurs
http://www.finisterehebdo.com/zoomsurloptique.php
(key word: magasin)
You may also find pharmacies and clinics (i.e. "private hospitals") run by mutual insurance companies or a group of...
http://www.mutoptic.fr/ >>Une optique mutualiste >> nos valeurs
http://www.finisterehebdo.com/zoomsurloptique.php
(key word: magasin)
Peer comment(s):
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Anna Maria Augustine (X)
: It is extremely rare for insurances to actually own stores
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However they do, through a G.I.E, or "Groupement d'intérêt économique", and they tend to open & manage more and more facilities... Some "branches" of Social Security used to have their own facilities not so long ago.
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Tony M
: Yes, I do know at least one like this that is indeed 'owned' by my own 'mutuelle'
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Thanks Dusty
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Josephine79
: I think this is right
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Thanks Josephine
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David Goward
: For example, Optic 2000 will deal with the social security and your mutual insurance company, as explained by Anna, but are not a "magasin mutualiste". The stores owned by, for example, Les Mutuelles du Mans are "magasins mutualistes".
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Thanks david. Nowadays, (nearly) all phamacies and opticians have standard agreements with mutual ins. companies but remain privatel owned or are franchised (opticians as Optic 2000 and others).
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df49f (X)
: oui, c'est exactement ça (et non pas la description dans la réponse précédente)
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Merci (Martine?)
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Dr Sue Levy (X)
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Thanks Sue
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Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: yes
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Thanks Jane
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Comment: "Thanks"
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Optical stores having signed a partial refund convention with mutual insurance companies
For example: When I go to buy a new pair of glasses, I'll choose an optician who has signed a convention with my particular mutual or complimentary health insurance company. That way, the amount usually reimboursed by the social security (a pitiful amount here) and the amount reimboursed by my mutual complimentary health insurance company (usually a flat rate) is completely covered and I just pay the amount remaining, which is not covered by any insurance.
Not all opticians have signed conventions with mutuals but it's worth shopping at one who has signed an agreement with your particular company. Instead of having to pay out 500 euros for glasses, i might have to pay about 100 euros, the part which isn't covered by any insurance at all.
The same system applies to pharmacies here in France so you only pay for medication which is not covered by the social security and consequently not by any mutual company either. Obviously you ask the doctor to prescribe medication which is reimbursed or you're very much out of pocket.
Considering the letter of June 30, 1998, recorded on July 8 1998 pennies number A 250, by which the Union of the opticians of France (UDO) seized the Council of competition, pursuant to article 5 of the ordinance of December 1, 1986, of a relative request for opinion, on the one hand, with the implementation of refundings differentiated as regards optics and, on the other hand, with the question of the communication of the conventions signed between mutual insurance companies and opticians;
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Note added at 1 hr 52 mins (2005-07-01 23:26:41 GMT)
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I might add that this has got absolutely nothing to do with franchise; my home insurance policy works that way.
Some employers in France ofer the benefit of an excellent mutual and you can have a pair of Dior or Channel glasses with the lenses without paying a penny. It\'s all covered.
Not all opticians have signed conventions with mutuals but it's worth shopping at one who has signed an agreement with your particular company. Instead of having to pay out 500 euros for glasses, i might have to pay about 100 euros, the part which isn't covered by any insurance at all.
The same system applies to pharmacies here in France so you only pay for medication which is not covered by the social security and consequently not by any mutual company either. Obviously you ask the doctor to prescribe medication which is reimbursed or you're very much out of pocket.
Considering the letter of June 30, 1998, recorded on July 8 1998 pennies number A 250, by which the Union of the opticians of France (UDO) seized the Council of competition, pursuant to article 5 of the ordinance of December 1, 1986, of a relative request for opinion, on the one hand, with the implementation of refundings differentiated as regards optics and, on the other hand, with the question of the communication of the conventions signed between mutual insurance companies and opticians;
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Note added at 1 hr 52 mins (2005-07-01 23:26:41 GMT)
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I might add that this has got absolutely nothing to do with franchise; my home insurance policy works that way.
Some employers in France ofer the benefit of an excellent mutual and you can have a pair of Dior or Channel glasses with the lenses without paying a penny. It\'s all covered.
Peer comment(s):
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sporran
: perfect for the explanation but I'm still trying to find a shorter translation for it !
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Yes it is a bit long but French isn't concise
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Tony M
: Perahps 'opticians affiliated to a mutual company' would suffice?
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AbdulHameed Al Hadidi
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Josephine79
: I don't think so: your description covers any of the other stores (franchises, independants etc) provided they have signed a convention, whereas I think this means stores run by the "mutuelles" themselves: "Centre Optique Mutualiste"
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David Goward
: See comment under Hervé's answer.
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franchise opticians
in this context..otherwise mutualiste can mean in insurance..mutual insurance company..
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Note added at 17 hrs 3 mins (2005-07-02 14:37:18 GMT)
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This is Wrong..Cam Everybody see that??
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Note added at 17 hrs 3 mins (2005-07-02 14:37:18 GMT)
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This is Wrong..Cam Everybody see that??
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Anna Maria Augustine (X)
: Sorry Jane, you don't live in France and you don't know the system.
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Yes Anna..I go to France all the time. I know all about France ..I lived in France for 15 years FYI...
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Tony M
: No, sorry Jane, but as Anna says, this is a quite specific thing over here...
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Actually, this exists here believe it or not..and I was lazy and didn't think about it...
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df49f (X)
: "can everybody see that?": yes! bravo! & don't worry Jane, some may live in France, yet obviously don't know the system!! :)
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Discussion
Enseigne cooperative, succursales et franchises, centre mutalistes et independents.
So, I'm not sure that franchise is correct translation of the term 'magasins mutualists'.