Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Sprachauffassung
English translation:
conception of language
Added to glossary by
Helen Shiner
Mar 27, 2009 17:53
15 yrs ago
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German term
Sprachauffassung
German to English
Social Sciences
Linguistics
evolutionary linguistics
I expect this is going to be one of those obvious ones for those in the know, but I am feeling rather doubtful about my rendering of the sentence in question, and would be grateful for any comments from those with expertise in this field. My doubts hinge specifically around the term 'Sprachauffassung' - I want to get the correct terminology for the linguistics field, please.
This is taken from a text about writing-induced concepts of language.
Speaking of the emergence of alphabets:
Erst die Anpassung der semitischen Schriften an das Griechische [...] führt zur Unterscheidung von Vokalen, Sonanten, Konsonanten und damit zu einer kategorialen Unterschreitung der Silbengrenze. Es ist dieser Assimilationsprozeß, der dem Alphabet seinen einzigartigen Abstraktionsgrad verliehen hat. Jede Zuordnung der graphischen Form zu Anschauung und Begriff ist hier aufgehoben. Unter dieser Bedingung, nämlich durch die ganz formale Natur des Alphabets, kann erst die Idee der Grammatik als Systemisierung einer Sprachauffassung entstehen.
My rough stab at the last sentence so far is:
Only in this circumstance, that is, by means of the completely formal nature of the alphabet, can the idea of grammar as the systemisation of a conception of language come into being.
Any thoughts from linguistically gifted colleagues much appreciated.
This is taken from a text about writing-induced concepts of language.
Speaking of the emergence of alphabets:
Erst die Anpassung der semitischen Schriften an das Griechische [...] führt zur Unterscheidung von Vokalen, Sonanten, Konsonanten und damit zu einer kategorialen Unterschreitung der Silbengrenze. Es ist dieser Assimilationsprozeß, der dem Alphabet seinen einzigartigen Abstraktionsgrad verliehen hat. Jede Zuordnung der graphischen Form zu Anschauung und Begriff ist hier aufgehoben. Unter dieser Bedingung, nämlich durch die ganz formale Natur des Alphabets, kann erst die Idee der Grammatik als Systemisierung einer Sprachauffassung entstehen.
My rough stab at the last sentence so far is:
Only in this circumstance, that is, by means of the completely formal nature of the alphabet, can the idea of grammar as the systemisation of a conception of language come into being.
Any thoughts from linguistically gifted colleagues much appreciated.
Proposed translations
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4 | Language conception or conception of language | tbilimava |
3 | language formalization | Anbu Ambrose |
Change log
Mar 29, 2009 19:45: Helen Shiner changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/882779">Helen Shiner's</a> old entry - "Sprachauffassung"" to ""Language conception or conception of language""
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Language conception or conception of language
One section of the international conference "The Unifying Aspects of Cultures" in 2003 was called: "Standardvariationen und Sprachauffassungen in verschiedenen Sprachkulturen" | "Standard Variations and Conceptions of Language in Various Language Cultures".
Also see reference. Reposted upon request. :)
Also see reference. Reposted upon request. :)
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Lancashireman
: Sorry, tbilimava. ‘Conception’ is a fine dictionary translation for ‘Auffassung’ but what exactly is a ‘language conception’? I would tend to agree with AMG (Discussion entry 1) that the ‘-auffassung’ suffix is redundant here.
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Please see my reply above.
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Comment: "Since this refers to various early languages, rather than just German, for instance, I think this is the correct answer in this particular context. I agree that were it related only to one language, it would not make much sense, but these are very varying grammars here, I suppose. Thanks to everyone for helping me gain clarity."
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language formalization
I just want to offer a a translation deviating from the words used but capturing the essence in linguistics terms.
" Grammar as a basis for formalized linguistic structure can only be understood within a broader framework of formal nature of the alphabets"
Just my two cents :)
" Grammar as a basis for formalized linguistic structure can only be understood within a broader framework of formal nature of the alphabets"
Just my two cents :)
Reference comments
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Reference:
Language conception or conception of language
One section of the international conference "The Unifying Aspects of Cultures" in 2003 was called: "Standardvariationen und Sprachauffassungen in verschiedenen Sprachkulturen" | "Standard Variations and Conceptions of Language in Various Language Cultures".
See the report in: TRANS, Internet journal for cultural sciences
See the report in: TRANS, Internet journal for cultural sciences
Note from asker:
Thanks for this, tbilimava, that is just what I was looking for but could not find. |
Could I ask you to post this as an answer when you have the time, please? |
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