Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
Se someterá a la voluntad de sus asociados (in this context)
English translation:
will be submitted to the members for their review
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Eileen Brophy
Jul 7, 2020 20:33
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Spanish term
Se someterá a la voluntad de sus asociados (in this context)
Spanish to English
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This is the context: Se someterá a la voluntad de sus asociados las cuentas y el informe de gestión de 2019,
modificaciones estatutarias solicitadas por el Ministerio de Cultura y cambios reglamentarios
requeridos por CISAC
I don't understand how members can take decisions on reports, changes, etc from 2019, because I imagine that
such decisions will already have been taken. So how can I translate the above please?
Thank you for your help.
modificaciones estatutarias solicitadas por el Ministerio de Cultura y cambios reglamentarios
requeridos por CISAC
I don't understand how members can take decisions on reports, changes, etc from 2019, because I imagine that
such decisions will already have been taken. So how can I translate the above please?
Thank you for your help.
Proposed translations
(English)
References
Sugerencia | Gabriel Ferrero |
Proposed translations
+3
3 hrs
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will be submitted to the members for their review
I realize that this is similar to Oliver's answer, but "review" is the operative word here. I am on a board of directors; we **review** the financial accounts. This is the law that applies to our board:
**Duty to Review Finances** - Davis-Stirling.comwww.davis-stirling.com › HOME › Duty-to-Review-Fin...
Every member of the board reviews the monthly documents and statements ... **Directors should review financial statements critically** and ask questions whenever ...
https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/Duty-to-Review-Finances
"Review Defined. 'Review" can be interpreted by its ordinary meaning, “to go over and examine critically or deliberately.” (Websters Dictionary.) Directors should review financial statements critically and ask questions whenever something looks amiss or does not make sense. For example, if the check register shows checks issued to a roofer but no roof work has been authorized, the board should investigate. Embezzlement may be occurring.'"
**Duty to Review Finances** - Davis-Stirling.comwww.davis-stirling.com › HOME › Duty-to-Review-Fin...
Every member of the board reviews the monthly documents and statements ... **Directors should review financial statements critically** and ask questions whenever ...
https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/Duty-to-Review-Finances
"Review Defined. 'Review" can be interpreted by its ordinary meaning, “to go over and examine critically or deliberately.” (Websters Dictionary.) Directors should review financial statements critically and ask questions whenever something looks amiss or does not make sense. For example, if the check register shows checks issued to a roofer but no roof work has been authorized, the board should investigate. Embezzlement may be occurring.'"
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Rebecca Reddin
9 hrs
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Thank you, Rebecca!
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agree |
AllegroTrans
13 hrs
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Thank you!
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agree |
Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
22 hrs
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Thank you, Beatriz!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you for your help"
+3
7 mins
Will be presented to the members for their perusal
and consideration/ acceptance; I think that's what they mean.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
51 mins
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thanks
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agree |
Carol Gullidge
: consideration/perusal and approval
1 hr
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thanks
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agree |
AllegroTrans
: for their consideration (they will be required to vote and approve, not merely peruse)
16 hrs
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thanks, yes, voting comes afterwards
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7 mins
Its members will discuss/deliberate
Members/partners (whatever they may be) are generally required to examine and approve or reject the accounts and reports submitted to them by the executive officers and accountants at such meetings.
As "se someterá a la voluntad" refers to all the items following, I'd translate it as "discuss" or "deliberate" those matters.
As "se someterá a la voluntad" refers to all the items following, I'd translate it as "discuss" or "deliberate" those matters.
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
AllegroTrans
: This of course is correct but I think the notion of "will be submitted" needs to be in the translation
16 hrs
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Thanks, Chris, but I'm not omitting anything that's not implicit with this active phrasing.
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5 hrs
It will be submitted to the authority for member or associates' approval
www.thefreedictionary.com
"Voluntad es la facultad humana para elegir o rechazar, tomar decisiones o actuar de una manera determinada. La voluntad es la intención o deseo de hacer una cosa que supone un esfuerzo. Es un mandato (términos de referencia de un orden de alguien). Es autorización o aprobación dada por una persona para que se haga algo. La buena voluntad es buena disposición para hacer las cosas con agrado e interés. Mala voluntad es antipatía hacia alguien."
"Will is the human capacity to choose or reject, make decisions, or act in a determined way. Will is the intention or wish (desire) to do something which requires an effort. It involves a person's mandate (terms of reference of a person's order or command). Will implies authority or approval given by a person to make something be done. It may have an inclination or affection towards something or someone. Good will is is a good arrangement, disposition or willingness to do things agreeably and with interest. Bad will is antipathy (dislike or aversion) towards another person."
"Voluntad es la facultad humana para elegir o rechazar, tomar decisiones o actuar de una manera determinada. La voluntad es la intención o deseo de hacer una cosa que supone un esfuerzo. Es un mandato (términos de referencia de un orden de alguien). Es autorización o aprobación dada por una persona para que se haga algo. La buena voluntad es buena disposición para hacer las cosas con agrado e interés. Mala voluntad es antipatía hacia alguien."
"Will is the human capacity to choose or reject, make decisions, or act in a determined way. Will is the intention or wish (desire) to do something which requires an effort. It involves a person's mandate (terms of reference of a person's order or command). Will implies authority or approval given by a person to make something be done. It may have an inclination or affection towards something or someone. Good will is is a good arrangement, disposition or willingness to do things agreeably and with interest. Bad will is antipathy (dislike or aversion) towards another person."
Example sentence:
Se someterá a la voluntad de sus asociados las cuentas y el informe de gestión, modificaciones estatuarias solicitadas por el Ministerio de Cultura y cambios reglamentarios requeridos.
Accounts and the management report, statutory adaptations required by the Ministry of Culture and regulatory changes requested will be submitted to the authority for approval from the associates or members.
Reference comments
40 mins
Reference:
Sugerencia
Puede ser que asociados quiera decir "fellows" en ese contexto. Además, de lo que leo, se refiere a un período del pasado sobre el que dichos asociados no pueden decidir (siendo el pasado). Por ende, sostengo que se trate de un modo cortés de indicar que "los asociados serán informados sobre las cuentas y la gestión por el período del 2019.
Note from asker:
Thank you Gabriel, that was my doubt, regarding the possibility of members of a public entity being able to decide about something that has happened in the past. So they are being given information, rather than allowed to take a decision? |
Discussion
There's a difference between a board of directors and the general members of the association. Depending on the situation, the board of directors **may or may not** be expected to approve them. On my board, we approve some and not others, but we have a **duty to review** all of them. Annual reports are then sent to all members of the association. Again, all members have a **duty to review** them for the reasons I mentioned - though most of them don't bother.
Think I'd better stop there, before getting any more involved, and besides it's getting late!
Hope that's a bit clearer though!
The point is that the Financial and other reports being presented were summaries of the Accounts, as well as the achievements of all the other Committees, throughout the PAST year. They were being presented for the APPROVAL of those members present, and signed by the Chair. Occasionally, modifications to the minutes would be suggested and these also had to be noted and approved before duly being agreed and signed.
Whether or not there is any comparison between this question and our AGMs, I would still imagine that it is the minutes of the previous meeting and the accounts of the financial year just ending that are being presented for consideration and approval in this case, rather than decisions on future actions to be taken.