Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

expérience probante

English translation:

convincing pilot scheme

Added to glossary by Héloïse Ki (X)
Mar 9, 2008 00:08
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French term

expérience probante

French to English Social Sciences International Org/Dev/Coop
"Le but du Programme Conjoint est d’asseoir cette orientation sur deux fondements solides : d’une part une ***expérience probante*** en vraie grandeur dans deux régions complémentaires, d’autre part l’apport du faisceau d’éléments indispensables à la mise en œuvre d’une telle stratégie, à savoir un schéma de politique culturelle générale et de développement, .......etc. ***L’expérience*** qui sera menée conjointement en Adrar et en Assaba.. devra démontrer que l’investissement dans l’offre culturelle de qualité est payant."

From a report on UN development project.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Proposed translations

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probative/targeted pilot scheme

I read 'experience' here as more or less 'experiment' rather than 'experience' in the English sense, especially given the second occurrence of the word, and 'probante' as 'probative', ie an experiment that provides meaningful evidence for whatever they're trying to work out - 'pertinent', 'relevant'. "Probative" is a word often used when assessing the value, of information, tests etc.

'Experiment' is odd in English outside a scientific context - evokes labs and white coats, whereas I gather what they're doing here is the kind of experimenting that's implied in 'piloting' a scheme, running a 'test-case', ie trying it out and seeing what happens. In that sense there will be 'experience' to be gathered here, but in a formal context.
Peer comment(s):

agree suezen : convincing scheme ... but scheme or pilot scheme is right in this context
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agree Najib Aloui : yes, probative, designed to provide factual evidence
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agree Jacqui Audouy
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proven experience

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Note added at 33 mins (2008-03-09 00:42:34 GMT)
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through full scale proven experience in...
Note from asker:
That was my immediate though too, but are you sure it fits here? How does it work with the second use of 'experience'?
Peer comment(s):

agree Patrice
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agree Victoria Porter-Burns :
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agree katsy
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neutral ormiston : don't think it fits here as the projects/schemes have not yet been implemented
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convincing (full-scale) experiments/trials

in two different regions

probant in the sense of "that actually prove or demonstrate something"
Peer comment(s):

agree Irene McClure : I was thinking along these lines too - 'convincing trials' reads well. 'Experience probante' is used a lot in job ads to mean solid or proven experience as alana suggests above, but that doesn't seem to fit in this context.
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conclusive experience

probant - Se dit d'une chose qui emporte l'approbation, qui apporte une preuve décisive de l'existence our de la valeur de quelque chose : Un argument probant. Ses raisons n'ont pas semblé probantes (syn. concluant, convaincant, décisif)
[Larousse Lexis]

conclusive - that settles a question; final; decisive
[Webster's]
Peer comment(s):

agree Francis Marche
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(Conclusive) test program(me), test project or pilot project

Test program(me)
test project
pilot project
Either the full expression or simply "test" would work for the second occurence of experience
Conclusive... or ...with conclusive results would be possible to insist on "probante", but could also be considered as implicit in a test situation.

Example sentence:

The Burkinabe Sahel Programme (BSP), a test programme developed in 1986 in order to

Based on lessons learned from the pilot project the UNDP assistance will be expanded to the strengthening urban sector governance programme.

Peer comment(s):

agree Bourth (X) : Yes, I focused on "probant". It is more likely to be tests or a trial than "experience" (though once completed, the former constitute the latter).
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test case

they indicate later in the text that this 'expérience' has not yet been implemented - to me it means that it is a trial/ pilot scheme as suggested and they are hoping to check out if it works, i.e. proves conclusive or decisive. I may not have the right term though...
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