Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
expérience probante
English translation:
convincing pilot scheme
Added to glossary by
Héloïse Ki (X)
Mar 9, 2008 00:08
16 yrs ago
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French term
expérience probante
French to English
Social Sciences
International Org/Dev/Coop
"Le but du Programme Conjoint est d’asseoir cette orientation sur deux fondements solides : d’une part une ***expérience probante*** en vraie grandeur dans deux régions complémentaires, d’autre part l’apport du faisceau d’éléments indispensables à la mise en œuvre d’une telle stratégie, à savoir un schéma de politique culturelle générale et de développement, .......etc. ***L’expérience*** qui sera menée conjointement en Adrar et en Assaba.. devra démontrer que l’investissement dans l’offre culturelle de qualité est payant."
From a report on UN development project.
Thanks in advance for any help!
From a report on UN development project.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +3 | probative/targeted pilot scheme | Melissa McMahon |
3 +3 | proven experience | Alana Quintyne |
4 +1 | conclusive experience | Bourth (X) |
4 +1 | (Conclusive) test program(me), test project or pilot project | sueaberwoman |
3 +1 | convincing (full-scale) experiments/trials | CMJ_Trans (X) |
3 | test case | ormiston |
Proposed translations
+3
4 hrs
Selected
probative/targeted pilot scheme
I read 'experience' here as more or less 'experiment' rather than 'experience' in the English sense, especially given the second occurrence of the word, and 'probante' as 'probative', ie an experiment that provides meaningful evidence for whatever they're trying to work out - 'pertinent', 'relevant'. "Probative" is a word often used when assessing the value, of information, tests etc.
'Experiment' is odd in English outside a scientific context - evokes labs and white coats, whereas I gather what they're doing here is the kind of experimenting that's implied in 'piloting' a scheme, running a 'test-case', ie trying it out and seeing what happens. In that sense there will be 'experience' to be gathered here, but in a formal context.
'Experiment' is odd in English outside a scientific context - evokes labs and white coats, whereas I gather what they're doing here is the kind of experimenting that's implied in 'piloting' a scheme, running a 'test-case', ie trying it out and seeing what happens. In that sense there will be 'experience' to be gathered here, but in a formal context.
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+3
27 mins
proven experience
A suggestion
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Note added at 33 mins (2008-03-09 00:42:34 GMT)
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through full scale proven experience in...
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Note added at 33 mins (2008-03-09 00:42:34 GMT)
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through full scale proven experience in...
Note from asker:
That was my immediate though too, but are you sure it fits here? How does it work with the second use of 'experience'? |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Patrice
9 mins
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agree |
Victoria Porter-Burns
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8 hrs
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agree |
katsy
9 hrs
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neutral |
ormiston
: don't think it fits here as the projects/schemes have not yet been implemented
14 hrs
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+1
8 hrs
convincing (full-scale) experiments/trials
in two different regions
probant in the sense of "that actually prove or demonstrate something"
probant in the sense of "that actually prove or demonstrate something"
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Irene McClure
: I was thinking along these lines too - 'convincing trials' reads well. 'Experience probante' is used a lot in job ads to mean solid or proven experience as alana suggests above, but that doesn't seem to fit in this context.
13 mins
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+1
10 hrs
conclusive experience
probant - Se dit d'une chose qui emporte l'approbation, qui apporte une preuve décisive de l'existence our de la valeur de quelque chose : Un argument probant. Ses raisons n'ont pas semblé probantes (syn. concluant, convaincant, décisif)
[Larousse Lexis]
conclusive - that settles a question; final; decisive
[Webster's]
[Larousse Lexis]
conclusive - that settles a question; final; decisive
[Webster's]
+1
10 hrs
(Conclusive) test program(me), test project or pilot project
Test program(me)
test project
pilot project
Either the full expression or simply "test" would work for the second occurence of experience
Conclusive... or ...with conclusive results would be possible to insist on "probante", but could also be considered as implicit in a test situation.
test project
pilot project
Either the full expression or simply "test" would work for the second occurence of experience
Conclusive... or ...with conclusive results would be possible to insist on "probante", but could also be considered as implicit in a test situation.
Example sentence:
The Burkinabe Sahel Programme (BSP), a test programme developed in 1986 in order to
Based on lessons learned from the pilot project the UNDP assistance will be expanded to the strengthening urban sector governance programme.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Bourth (X)
: Yes, I focused on "probant". It is more likely to be tests or a trial than "experience" (though once completed, the former constitute the latter).
4 hrs
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Thanks, Bourth! Hadn't seen yours...
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15 hrs
test case
they indicate later in the text that this 'expérience' has not yet been implemented - to me it means that it is a trial/ pilot scheme as suggested and they are hoping to check out if it works, i.e. proves conclusive or decisive. I may not have the right term though...
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