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Lieven Malaise
Lieven Malaise
Belgium
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Member (2020)
French to Dutch
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Other Nov 28, 2023

I use Airtight Insulation for insulation purposes. It really works for me.

ibz
Zea_Mays
Ines Radionovas-Lagoutte, PhD
P.L.F. Persio
expressisverbis
Alex Lichanow
Tom in London
 
ibz
ibz  Identity Verified
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English to German
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@ProZ staff Nov 28, 2023

Come on! Really? Do you even read the discussions 🙄?

Patricia Prevost
P.L.F. Persio
expressisverbis
IrinaN
neilmac
Alex Lichanow
Tom in London
 
IrinaN
IrinaN
United States
Local time: 02:58
English to Russian
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Please Nov 28, 2023

Send somebody to stop the phonograph - the stylus is broken.

Tom in London
P.L.F. Persio
Peter Shortall
Patricia Prevost
Philip Lees
expressisverbis
 
Christopher Schröder
Christopher Schröder
United Kingdom
Member (2011)
Swedish to English
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Shouldn't "nothing" be an option? Nov 28, 2023

I'm actually very interested in finding out what people here use it for.

I've tested ChatGPT's three obvious applications (MT, style, research) and found it unhelpful.


Dan Lucas
P.L.F. Persio
Alex Lichanow
Tom in London
Edith van der Have
Lieven Malaise
Liena Vijupe
 
Tom in London
Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:58
Member (2008)
Italian to English
Proposed role for ChatGPT Nov 28, 2023

I think of ChatGPT as that appliance I tried a couple of times when it was new and I was excited.

Now it stays back in the darkest part of the most inaccessible cupboard in my kitchen.

Sometimes I notice it's there. But then I move on.


Christopher Schröder
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Thomas Lof
expressisverbis
Susanna Martoni
P.L.F. Persio
Simone Linke
 
Lieven Malaise
Lieven Malaise
Belgium
Local time: 09:58
Member (2020)
French to Dutch
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Indeed Nov 28, 2023

Christopher Schröder wrote:
I'm actually very interested in finding out what people here use it for.

I've tested ChatGPT's three obvious applications (MT, style, research) and found it unhelpful.


I've used it some time ago a couple of times for acronym research, but I must have been lucky then. The last times I tried, it failed miserably and it took me way too long to find something useful compared to a conveniontal Google search.

As far as machine translation is concerned, I see (at this point) no reason whatsover to prefer it over DeepL.

And style... We do have some pride being a translator, haven't we ? So I would never use it to boost my style after translation. I would prefer my own that I (luckily) consider superior to the artificially pimped up ChatGPT chitchat. Actually ChatGPT is most useful for people who are not very good in writing, so that already should exclude every professional translator (in a perfect world).


Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Christopher Schröder
Thomas Lof
expressisverbis
Christine Andersen
Luis M. Sosa
Liena Vijupe
 
Thomas Lof
Thomas Lof
Local time: 09:58
Member (2020)
English to Dutch
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Theft of intellectual property Nov 28, 2023

AI and translation applications like MT-based systems 'steal' your translations, being an intellectual property, by 'learning' themselves how to translate properly... leaving you with post-editing jobs only for a fee at a rate of 1/3 till 1/5 compared to going rate not only for the initial customer you worked for, but cross-customer too... I have found out very much to my surprise. AI/MT ignores your copyright! It is so sad Proz.com promotes these mal-practices...

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
P.L.F. Persio
Thayenga
writeaway
Angie Garbarino
Angus Stewart
Patricia Prevost
 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 08:58
Member (2007)
English to Portuguese
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Oh my not again! Nov 28, 2023

Naïvely I thought that I couldn’t possibly get more stressed than yesterday! I kind of become addicted to the Polls, but I’ll seek immediate treatment…

expressisverbis
Thayenga
Susanna Martoni
Christopher Schröder
IrinaN
P.L.F. Persio
ibz
 
Lieven Malaise
Lieven Malaise
Belgium
Local time: 09:58
Member (2020)
French to Dutch
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Not quite Nov 28, 2023

Thomas Lof wrote:
AI and translation applications like MT-based systems 'steal' your translations, being an intellectual property, by 'learning' themselves how to translate properly... leaving you with post-editing jobs only for a fee at a rate of 1/3 till 1/5 compared to going rate not only for the initial customer you worked for, but cross-customer too... I have found out very much to my surprise. AI/MT ignores your copyright! It is so sad Proz.com promotes these mal-practices...


Paid DeepL MT doesn't use your translations for self-learning or any other possible use. It doesn't even store your translations.


expressisverbis
P.L.F. Persio
 
Lingua 5B
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
Local time: 09:58
Member (2009)
English to Croatian
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The Broken Record technique Nov 28, 2023

The Broken Record technique is a great way to get a message across to an emotional customer, especially one who appears not to be listening to you or accepting what you're saying. The technique involves repeating yourself like a broken record, until the message gets through.

https://www.cfatraining.co.uk/the-broken-record-technique/

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The Broken Record technique is a great way to get a message across to an emotional customer, especially one who appears not to be listening to you or accepting what you're saying. The technique involves repeating yourself like a broken record, until the message gets through.

https://www.cfatraining.co.uk/the-broken-record-technique/

You know how they say: if they repeat it a sufficient number of times, it'll stick with us. It still didn't and their effort is major.
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expressisverbis
Maria G. Grassi, MA AITI
Baran Keki
Liena Vijupe
P.L.F. Persio
Peter Shortall
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
 
Denis Fesik
Denis Fesik
Local time: 10:58
English to Russian
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I'm thinking of giving up on MT altogether Nov 28, 2023

I've been using OPUS Cat to speed up typing during translation, but recently I caught it sucking my RAM like crazy, which had never happened before. Maybe it was just a bug, but I no longer have that thing on all the time. It's not something that significanly speeds up my work flow; what really does is my own prior work saved in a TM. Getting a bunch of documents like NDT reports or WPS certificates where I've already translated everything is the kind of job that I can do very quickly and with a... See more
I've been using OPUS Cat to speed up typing during translation, but recently I caught it sucking my RAM like crazy, which had never happened before. Maybe it was just a bug, but I no longer have that thing on all the time. It's not something that significanly speeds up my work flow; what really does is my own prior work saved in a TM. Getting a bunch of documents like NDT reports or WPS certificates where I've already translated everything is the kind of job that I can do very quickly and with a relaxed approach.

I read posts here about acronym research, and yet I can't help doubting that Chat is indeed a great acronym research tool for all languages. Will it help much if your segment looks like "СВСУ, СКУ ХВО, СКУ ВП, СКУ КВО ПРК, СКУ МПУ ОС, СКУ ТО, СКУ РО, СВБУ, ТС ОДУ, ПТК ЛЗ, ПУ, СТД ГЦНА, САУ ДГУ САЭ и ПТК МПУ СБ, ПТК В СБ, ИнЧ АЗ/ПЗ, ПТК МПУ СБ, АСВД, ШУ АКС, ИспЧ и ИнЧ ДСЗ, ИспЧ СУЗ-УСБТ, СКГА, СКУ В, СКУ СВО, СКУ ПТиТГ, СПНИ, СКУД, СВРК, СВРД" and all you know is that these are names of NPP systems in the APCS? Just in case, these acronyms can't be found in any one source, and the customer will only provide the full versions if requested (and never on the same day). I recently had to do just that and even delivered the job on time though it was really hard and contained many more acronyms. Since I'm not stealing anyone's jobs here, maybe the readers won't hate me too much for working into English from time to time, but whatever, it's the managers who decide in which direction I'm supposed to work
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Christine Andersen
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Denmark
Local time: 09:58
Member (2003)
Danish to English
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Artificial intelligence is like artificial flowers Nov 28, 2023

Artificial flowers look OK on a grave if you live a long way away and do not have time to keep putting fresh flowers there.
You can still remember your beloved granny in so many other ways, and get on with real life.

Sometimes, you do have to replace even artificial flowers... they don't grow, and although they don't die, they don't change with the seasons, so they may look out of place.

Nobody quite knows what AI does, but it cannot be guaranteed to come up with
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Artificial flowers look OK on a grave if you live a long way away and do not have time to keep putting fresh flowers there.
You can still remember your beloved granny in so many other ways, and get on with real life.

Sometimes, you do have to replace even artificial flowers... they don't grow, and although they don't die, they don't change with the seasons, so they may look out of place.

Nobody quite knows what AI does, but it cannot be guaranteed to come up with the appropriate solution every time. OK, real human intelligence is not entirely reliable either, but I still strongly prefer it.

I do not knowingly use any artificial intelligence bots, I get on fine with the real thing.
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Liena Vijupe
Peter Shortall
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Giovana Zaltron
tabor
 
Tom in London
Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:58
Member (2008)
Italian to English
Goebbels Nov 28, 2023

Lingua 5B wrote:

The Broken Record technique is a great way to get a message across to an emotional customer, especially one who appears not to be listening to you or accepting what you're saying. The technique involves repeating yourself like a broken record, until the message gets through.

https://www.cfatraining.co.uk/the-broken-record-technique/

You know how they say: if they repeat it a sufficient number of times, it'll stick with us. It still didn't and their effort is major.


"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Goebbels


Liena Vijupe
Peter Shortall
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Kay Denney
 
Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL
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United Kingdom
Local time: 08:58
Member (2004)
English to Italian
AI... Nov 28, 2023

are we including MT in it? Or not?

Angie Garbarino
 
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